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Re: Using WAI-ARIA in HTML ready for publication

From: Steve Faulkner <faulkner.steve@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2013 20:52:07 +0000
Message-ID: <CA+ri+V=083m=LEty5-ep7P4zqHXs9GRGWGnKRTxxw21aBMk1OA@mail.gmail.com>
To: Paul Cotton <Paul.Cotton@microsoft.com>
Cc: Judy Brewer <jbrewer@w3.org>, Michael Smith <mike@w3.org>, Sam Ruby <rubys@intertwingly.net>, Janina Sajka <janina@rednote.net>, Philippe Le Hégar et <plh@w3.org>, "public-html-admin@w3.org" <public-html-admin@w3.org>, PFWG <w3c-wai-pf@w3.org>, HTML Accessibility Task Force <public-html-a11y@w3.org>
Hi Paul

the row for main in the table has been commented out and I have pushed the
change.


regards
Steve

On 5 February 2013 20:32, Steve Faulkner <faulkner.steve@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Paul,
>
> I will make the edit as requested.
>
>
> regards
>
> Steve
>
>
> On 5 February 2013 19:12, Paul Cotton <Paul.Cotton@microsoft.com> wrote:
>
>>  > This was a technical edit to mirror the html 5.1 spec, the aim of the
>> document is to be up to date, but if you think that it is nothing something
>> that should not be in the publication it can certainly be removed.
>>
>> ****
>>
>> As a general principle Editors should not make technical changes to a
>> document AFTER a CfC to publish the Working Draft without explicitly asking
>> the WG for further approval.   ****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> And in this the case the WAI-ARIA in HTML specification actually refers
>> to the HTML 5.0 CR draft in its references and therefore slipping in a HTML
>> 5.1 is not appropriate.****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Therefore I recommend that you withdraw the “main” changes from this FPWD
>> before it is published.****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> /paulc****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Paul Cotton, Microsoft Canada****
>>
>> 17 Eleanor Drive, Ottawa, Ontario K2E 6A3****
>>
>> Tel: (425) 705-9596 Fax: (425) 936-7329****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> *From:* Steve Faulkner [mailto:faulkner.steve@gmail.com]
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 05, 2013 11:52 AM
>>
>> *To:* Paul Cotton
>> *Cc:* Judy Brewer; Michael Smith; Sam Ruby; Janina Sajka; Philippe Le
>> Hégar et; public-html-admin@w3.org; PFWG; HTML Accessibility Task Force
>> *Subject:* Re: Using WAI-ARIA in HTML ready for publication****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Hi paul,
>>
>> > Can you confirm that you will also removed the reference in Section
>> 2.10 Recommendations Table to aria-hidden?
>>
>> that predates the CFC
>>
>> >One of the changes to the Section 2.10 Recommendations Table does not
>> appear to be editorial since it adds a row for the proposed “main” HTML
>> >element.  Was this also added after the CfC for the publication of this
>> document?
>>
>> This was a technical edit to mirror the html 5.1 spec, the aim of the
>> document is to be up to date, but if you think that it is nothing something
>> that should not be in the publication it can certainly be removed.
>>
>> regards
>> SteveF****
>>
>> On 5 February 2013 15:51, Paul Cotton <Paul.Cotton@microsoft.com> wrote:*
>> ***
>>
>> > the section on aria-hidden is an addition I made to the editors draft,
>> but did not intend to be in the working draft. I have removed it from the
>> working draft copy.****
>>
>> Can you confirm that you will also removed the reference in Section 2.10
>> Recommendations Table to aria-hidden?****
>>
>>  ****
>>
>> One of the changes to the Section 2.10 Recommendations Table does not
>> appear to be editorial since it adds a row for the proposed “main” HTML
>> element.  Was this also added after the CfC for the publication of this
>> document?****
>>
>>  ****
>>
>> /paulc****
>>
>>  ****
>>
>> Paul Cotton, Microsoft Canada****
>>
>> 17 Eleanor Drive, Ottawa, Ontario K2E 6A3****
>>
>> Tel: (425) 705-9596 Fax: (425) 936-7329****
>>
>>  ****
>>
>> *From:* Steve Faulkner [mailto:faulkner.steve@gmail.com]
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 05, 2013 2:48 AM
>> *To:* Paul Cotton
>> *Cc:* Judy Brewer; Michael Smith; Sam Ruby; Janina Sajka; Philippe Le
>> Hégar et; public-html-admin@w3.org; PFWG; HTML Accessibility Task Force**
>> **
>>
>>
>> *Subject:* Re: Using WAI-ARIA in HTML ready for publication****
>>
>>  ****
>>
>> Hi Paul,
>>
>> the changes to the recommendations table are editorial corrections.
>>
>> the section on aria-hidden is an addition I made to the editors draft,
>> but did not intend to be in the working draft. I have removed it from the
>> working draft copy.
>>
>> regards
>> steve****
>>
>> On 5 February 2013 03:44, Paul Cotton <Paul.Cotton@microsoft.com> wrote:*
>> ***
>>
>> The diff you provided shows changes in Section 2.9 Using aria-hidden and
>> in several places in the Section 2.10 Recommendations Table that do not
>> appear in your list of editorial changes.  Can you also explain these
>> changes?
>>
>> /paulc****
>>
>>
>> Paul Cotton, Microsoft Canada
>> 17 Eleanor Drive, Ottawa, Ontario K2E 6A3
>> Tel: (425) 705-9596 Fax: (425) 936-7329****
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Judy Brewer [mailto:jbrewer@w3.org]
>> Sent: Monday, February 04, 2013 3:26 PM
>> To: Steve Faulkner; public-html-admin@w3.org; PFWG; HTML Accessibility
>> Task Force
>> Cc: Paul Cotton; Sam Ruby; Janina Sajka; Philippe Le Hégar et; Michael
>> Smith
>> Subject: Re: Using WAI-ARIA in HTML ready for publication****
>>
>> Here is a full summary of editorial changes in one place that have been
>> made since the calls for consensus for publication with both PFWG and HTML
>> WG:
>>
>>    - updated title to match WAI-ARIA spec name
>>    - updated copyright date
>>    - expanded description of the doc in the Abstract
>>    - clarified relation to HTML Accessibility TF and PFWG in the Status
>>    - added an Introduction to the document.
>>
>> Based on dates of the mercurial file versions and dates of the CfCs, it
>> looks like the diff showing all changes between the document version that
>> the Task Force and both Working Groups reviewed, till now, (not just these
>> last edits) would be this one:
>>
>>    <
>> http://services.w3.org/htmldiff?doc1=https%3A%2F%2Fdvcs.w3.org%2Fhg%2Faria-unofficial%2Fraw-file%2F4aa58eed6108%2Findex.html&doc2=https%3A%2F%2Fdvcs.w3.org%2Fhg%2Faria-unofficial%2Fraw-file%2Fe5d93aef7530%2Findex.html
>> >
>>
>> The edits earlier today were to match changes that had already been
>> requested.
>>
>> My understanding is that, per prior WG & TF coordination discussion,
>> unless any comments are received on these changes after a 48-hour FYI to
>> the TF and the 2 WGs, then the document should be ready for publication at
>> that point.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> - Judy
>>
>>
>> At 03:22 PM 2/4/2013 +0000, Steve Faulkner wrote:
>> >after discussion with Judy and Janina I have made a few further
>> >editorial changes:
>> >
>> >    * modified abstract text
>> >    * modified boilerplate to clarify the document origin.
>> >changeset:
>> ><https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/aria-unofficial/rev/e5d93aef7530>https://dvcs.w
>> >3.org/hg/aria-unofficial/rev/e5d93aef7530
>> >
>> >regards
>> >SteveF
>> >
>> >
>> >On 2 February 2013 16:16, Steve Faulkner
>> ><<mailto:faulkner.steve@gmail.com>faulkner.steve@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >I believe that the Using WAI-ARIA in HTML spec is ready for publication
>> >the draft
>> ><https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/aria-unofficial/raw-file/tip/index.html>https:/
>> >/dvcs.w3.org/hg/aria-unofficial/raw-file/tip/index.html
>> >
>> >the minor changes requested have been made:
>> >additon of text to the abstract:
>> >changing of document title to "WAI-ARIA in HTML"
>> >correcting of the boiler plate text has been done by Mike Smith
>> >(thanks). He is also handling the publication to the appropriate URLs.
>> >--
>> >with regards
>> >Steve Faulkner
>> >Technical Director - TPG
>> >
>>
>> --
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>>
>>
>>
>>
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>>
>>
>>
>>
>>


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Steve Faulkner
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