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RE: Using WAI-ARIA in HTML ready for publication

From: Paul Cotton <Paul.Cotton@microsoft.com>
Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2013 15:57:31 +0000
To: Steve Faulkner <faulkner.steve@gmail.com>
CC: Judy Brewer <jbrewer@w3.org>, Michael Smith <mike@w3.org>, Sam Ruby <rubys@intertwingly.net>, Janina Sajka <janina@rednote.net>, Philippe Le Hégar et <plh@w3.org>, "public-html-admin@w3.org" <public-html-admin@w3.org>, PFWG <w3c-wai-pf@w3.org>, HTML Accessibility Task Force <public-html-a11y@w3.org>
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The WAI-ARIA in HTML specification was published today.  See http://www.w3.org/News/2013#entry-9721  and http://www.w3.org/TR/2013/WD-aria-in-html-20130214/ 

/paulc
HTML WG co-chair

Paul Cotton, Microsoft Canada
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Tel: (425) 705-9596 Fax: (425) 936-7329

From: Steve Faulkner [mailto:faulkner.steve@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2013 3:33 PM
To: Paul Cotton
Cc: Judy Brewer; Michael Smith; Sam Ruby; Janina Sajka; Philippe Le Hégar et; public-html-admin@w3.org; PFWG; HTML Accessibility Task Force
Subject: Re: Using WAI-ARIA in HTML ready for publication

Hi Paul, 

I will make the edit as requested.


regards

Steve
On 5 February 2013 19:12, Paul Cotton <Paul.Cotton@microsoft.com> wrote:
> This was a technical edit to mirror the html 5.1 spec, the aim of the document is to be up to date, but if you think that it is nothing something that should not be in the publication it can certainly be removed.
As a general principle Editors should not make technical changes to a document AFTER a CfC to publish the Working Draft without explicitly asking the WG for further approval.   
 
And in this the case the WAI-ARIA in HTML specification actually refers to the HTML 5.0 CR draft in its references and therefore slipping in a HTML 5.1 is not appropriate.
 
Therefore I recommend that you withdraw the "main" changes from this FPWD before it is published.
 
/paulc
 
Paul Cotton, Microsoft Canada
17 Eleanor Drive, Ottawa, Ontario K2E 6A3
Tel: (425) 705-9596 Fax: (425) 936-7329
 
From: Steve Faulkner [mailto:faulkner.steve@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2013 11:52 AM

To: Paul Cotton
Cc: Judy Brewer; Michael Smith; Sam Ruby; Janina Sajka; Philippe Le Hégar et; public-html-admin@w3.org; PFWG; HTML Accessibility Task Force
Subject: Re: Using WAI-ARIA in HTML ready for publication
 
Hi paul, 

> Can you confirm that you will also removed the reference in Section 2.10 Recommendations Table to aria-hidden?

that predates the CFC

>One of the changes to the Section 2.10 Recommendations Table does not appear to be editorial since it adds a row for the proposed "main" HTML >element.  Was this also added after the CfC for the publication of this document?

This was a technical edit to mirror the html 5.1 spec, the aim of the document is to be up to date, but if you think that it is nothing something that should not be in the publication it can certainly be removed.

regards
SteveF
On 5 February 2013 15:51, Paul Cotton <Paul.Cotton@microsoft.com> wrote:
> the section on aria-hidden is an addition I made to the editors draft, but did not intend to be in the working draft. I have removed it from the working draft copy.
Can you confirm that you will also removed the reference in Section 2.10 Recommendations Table to aria-hidden?
 
One of the changes to the Section 2.10 Recommendations Table does not appear to be editorial since it adds a row for the proposed "main" HTML element.  Was this also added after the CfC for the publication of this document?
 
/paulc
 
Paul Cotton, Microsoft Canada
17 Eleanor Drive, Ottawa, Ontario K2E 6A3
Tel: (425) 705-9596 Fax: (425) 936-7329
 
From: Steve Faulkner [mailto:faulkner.steve@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2013 2:48 AM
To: Paul Cotton
Cc: Judy Brewer; Michael Smith; Sam Ruby; Janina Sajka; Philippe Le Hégar et; public-html-admin@w3.org; PFWG; HTML Accessibility Task Force

Subject: Re: Using WAI-ARIA in HTML ready for publication
 
Hi Paul, 

the changes to the recommendations table are editorial corrections.

the section on aria-hidden is an addition I made to the editors draft, but did not intend to be in the working draft. I have removed it from the working draft copy.

regards
steve
On 5 February 2013 03:44, Paul Cotton <Paul.Cotton@microsoft.com> wrote:
The diff you provided shows changes in Section 2.9 Using aria-hidden and in several places in the Section 2.10 Recommendations Table that do not appear in your list of editorial changes.  Can you also explain these changes?

/paulc

Paul Cotton, Microsoft Canada
17 Eleanor Drive, Ottawa, Ontario K2E 6A3
Tel: (425) 705-9596 Fax: (425) 936-7329
-----Original Message-----
From: Judy Brewer [mailto:jbrewer@w3.org]
Sent: Monday, February 04, 2013 3:26 PM
To: Steve Faulkner; public-html-admin@w3.org; PFWG; HTML Accessibility Task Force
Cc: Paul Cotton; Sam Ruby; Janina Sajka; Philippe Le Hégar et; Michael Smith
Subject: Re: Using WAI-ARIA in HTML ready for publication
Here is a full summary of editorial changes in one place that have been made since the calls for consensus for publication with both PFWG and HTML WG:

   - updated title to match WAI-ARIA spec name
   - updated copyright date
   - expanded description of the doc in the Abstract
   - clarified relation to HTML Accessibility TF and PFWG in the Status
   - added an Introduction to the document.

Based on dates of the mercurial file versions and dates of the CfCs, it looks like the diff showing all changes between the document version that the Task Force and both Working Groups reviewed, till now, (not just these last edits) would be this one:

   <http://services.w3.org/htmldiff?doc1=https%3A%2F%2Fdvcs.w3.org%2Fhg%2Faria-unofficial%2Fraw-file%2F4aa58eed6108%2Findex.html&doc2=https%3A%2F%2Fdvcs.w3.org%2Fhg%2Faria-unofficial%2Fraw-file%2Fe5d93aef7530%2Findex.html>

The edits earlier today were to match changes that had already been requested.

My understanding is that, per prior WG & TF coordination discussion, unless any comments are received on these changes after a 48-hour FYI to the TF and the 2 WGs, then the document should be ready for publication at that point.

Regards,

- Judy


At 03:22 PM 2/4/2013 +0000, Steve Faulkner wrote:
>after discussion with Judy and Janina I have made a few further
>editorial changes:
>
>    * modified abstract text
>    * modified boilerplate to clarify the document origin.
>changeset:
><https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/aria-unofficial/rev/e5d93aef7530>https://dvcs.w
>3.org/hg/aria-unofficial/rev/e5d93aef7530
>
>regards
>SteveF
>
>
>On 2 February 2013 16:16, Steve Faulkner
><<mailto:faulkner.steve@gmail.com>faulkner.steve@gmail.com> wrote:
>I believe that the Using WAI-ARIA in HTML spec is ready for publication
>the draft
><https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/aria-unofficial/raw-file/tip/index.html>https:/
>/dvcs.w3.org/hg/aria-unofficial/raw-file/tip/index.html
>
>the minor changes requested have been made:
>additon of text to the abstract:
>changing of document title to "WAI-ARIA in HTML"
>correcting of the boiler plate text has been done by Mike Smith
>(thanks). He is also handling the publication to the appropriate URLs.
>--
>with regards
>Steve Faulkner
>Technical Director - TPG
>

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