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Re: Change Proposals Regarding Missing alt and Conformance (ISSUE 31)

From: Laura Carlson <laura.lee.carlson@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2010 19:00:59 -0600
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To: HTML WG <public-html@w3.org>, HTML Accessibility Task Force <public-html-a11y@w3.org>
Hello Everyone,

I have been asked to provide further details and history of the proposals at:
http://www.w3.org/html/wg/wiki/ChangeProposals/ImgElementSurveyConformaceChoices

Proposal number 1 is Ian's.

I wrote proposals number 2 through 6.

Proposal number 2 is and always has been the change proposal which
implements WAI CG's recommendation and which is the accessibility task
force recommendation:
http://www.w3.org/html/wg/wiki/ChangeProposals/ImgElement20090126
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2010May/0033.html

I drafted proposals number 3 and 4 at the Chairs' request because the
accessibility task force did not have rationale for aria-labelledby or
role="presentation" in their proposal (but now it does, thanks to
Steve).

It was last June that the HTML WG Chairs asked that rationale be
provided for the aria-labelledby and role="presentation" or to exclude
them from the accessibility task force change proposal. So in June I
asked the task force for help in providing rationale for
aria-labelledby and role="presentation":
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2010Jun/0213.html

No one responded to my call for help. So in July I created
proposals 3 an 4 without those options and informed the task force.
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2010Jul/0022.html
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2010Jul/0025.html
http://www.w3.org/html/wg/wiki/ChangeProposals/ImgElement20100706
http://www.w3.org/html/wg/wiki/ChangeProposals/ImgElement20100707

Since then people have contacted me off list saying that no
accessibility task force response to my TF queries is indicative of
weak rationale for aria-labelledby and role="presentation". They would
like proposals 3 and 4 as offerings for the HTMLWG survey.

Proposal 5 was created to try to address Jonas and T.V Raman's concerns.
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2010May/0186.html
http://www.w3.org/html/wg/wiki/ChangeProposals/ImgElement20100510

Proposal 6 was created to try to address Vlad Alexander concerns. He
has no faith W3C HTML WG or WHATWG, so I submitted this proposal on
his behalf.
http://rebuildingtheweb.com/en/correct-img-element-definition/
http://www.w3.org/html/wg/wiki/ChangeProposals/ImgElement20100504

I can live with any of the Change Proposals that I drafted. They all
have the commonality of  disallowing <img> to be valid with the
generator mechanism, email exception, and title attribute as well as
requiring the structural Integrity of the <img> element.

Best Regards,
Laura

Related references:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2010Jul/0039.html
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2010Jul/0041.html
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2010Jul/0113.html
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2010Aug/0080.html
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2010Mar/0007.html
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2010Jan/0310.html

On 11/7/10, Laura Carlson <laura.lee.carlson@gmail.com> wrote:
> I read the tpac minutes. There seems to have been some confusion over
> the alt change proposals regarding missing alt and conformance
> checkers.
>
> To try to help delineate those change proposals and the options they
> contain, I put together a new wiki page:
> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/wiki/ChangeProposals/ImgElementSurveyConformaceChoices

-- 
Laura L. Carlson
Received on Thursday, 11 November 2010 01:01:35 GMT

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