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Re: ISSUE-80: We need a definition of "dataset"

From: Phil Archer <phila@w3.org>
Date: Sat, 08 Nov 2014 15:38:45 +0000
Message-ID: <545E3905.2070703@w3.org>
To: Antoine Isaac <aisaac@few.vu.nl>, public-dwbp-wg@w3.org
I was about to write separately to address Steve's point but you've done 
it Antoine...

Phil.

On 08/11/2014 15:14, Antoine Isaac wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Addressing Laufer and Steve's concerns seem to be not about changing
> what DCAT sees to be a dataset, but rather explaining the parts of
> DCAT's definition
>
> I.e., 'available for access or download in one or more formats'
> perfectly covers the case of a set of files, to me.
>
> And an 'agent' can be a group of several entities. This is actually
> quite similar to the case of 'collections' in cultural heritage and
> related areas. These are often said to be curated by an agent, which is
> responsible of it. But this view assume that this single agent can be a
> person, an organization... or even a completely adhoc, evolving set of
> persons, like a Flickr group...
>
> Having recognized this, I prefer however to keep to the DCAT general
> wording, which gently allows for such (perfectly valid) interpretations,
> without spending more time on debating every bit!
>
> So a big +1 from as well.
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Antoine
>
>
> On 11/8/14 3:51 PM, Ig Ibert Bittencourt wrote:
>> +1 to Makx
>>
>> On Nov 7, 2014 9:49 PM, "Yaso" <yaso@nic.br <mailto:yaso@nic.br>> wrote:
>>
>>     +1 to Makx
>>
>>
>>     Em 11/7/14, 12:09 PM, Makx Dekkers escreveu:
>>      > My opinion is that we should not try to redefine what's already
>>      > well-defined, unless we have a use case that absolutely needs
>> the wider
>>      > definition. If not, let's stick with the DCAT one.
>>      >
>>      > Makx
>>      > Op 7 nov. 2014 20:07 schreef "Steven Adler" <adler1@us.ibm.com
>> <mailto:adler1@us.ibm.com>>:
>>      >
>>      >> Phil,
>>      >>
>>      >> I wasn't privy to the last definition and am 95% fine with the
>> current
>>      >> one.  But it does feels a little narrow to me.  What about:
>>      >>
>>      >> A collection of data, published or curated by one or more
>> agents, and
>>      >> available for access, use, or download in one or more formats.
>>      >>
>>      >>
>>      >> Best Regards,
>>      >>
>>      >> Steve
>>      >>
>>      >> Motto: "Do First, Think, Do it Again"
>>      >>
>>      >> [image: Inactive hide details for Phil Archer ---11/07/2014
>> 10:10:03
>>      >> AM---I tried to word the issue relatively objectively just now
>> in]Phil
>>      >> Archer ---11/07/2014 10:10:03 AM---I tried to word the issue
>> relatively
>>      >> objectively just now in tracker,  allowing for the possibility
>>      >>
>>      >>
>>      >>
>>      >>    From:
>>      >>
>>      >>
>>      >> Phil Archer <phila@w3.org <mailto:phila@w3.org>>
>>      >>
>>      >>    To:
>>      >>
>>      >>
>>      >> Data on the Web Best Practices Working Group
>> <public-dwbp-wg@w3.org <mailto:public-dwbp-wg@w3.org>>
>>      >>
>>      >>    Date:
>>      >>
>>      >>
>>      >> 11/07/2014 10:10 AM
>>      >>
>>      >>    Subject:
>>      >>
>>      >>
>>      >> Re: ISSUE-80: We need a definition of "dataset"
>>      >> ------------------------------
>>      >>
>>      >>
>>      >>
>>      >> I tried to word the issue relatively objectively just now in
>> tracker,
>>      >> allowing for the possibility of the WG to come up with a
>> definition of
>>      >> 'dataset' other than that in DCAT. More subjectively, I would
>> personally
>>      >> be very opposed to any such redefinition unless there were
>> very strong
>>      >> arguments for doing so.
>>      >>
>>      >> Phil.
>>      >>
>>      >>
>>      >> On 07/11/2014 14:25, Data on the Web Best Practices Working
>> Group Issue
>>      >> Tracker wrote:
>>      >>> ISSUE-80: We need a definition of "dataset"
>>      >>>
>>      >>> http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/80
>>      >>>
>>      >>> Raised by:
>>      >>> On product:
>>      >>>
>>      >>>
>>      >>>
>>      >>>
>>      >>>
>>      >>>
>>      >>
>>      >> --
>>      >>
>>      >>
>>      >> Phil Archer
>>      >> W3C Data Activity Lead
>>      >> http://www.w3.org/2013/data/
>>      >>
>>      >> http://philarcher.org
>>      >> +44 (0)7887 767755 <tel:%2B44%20%280%297887%20767755>
>>      >> @philarcher1
>>      >>
>>      >>
>>      >>
>>      >>
>>      >
>>
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