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Re: ISSUE-80: We need a definition of "dataset"

From: Antoine Isaac <aisaac@few.vu.nl>
Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2014 16:14:05 +0100
Message-ID: <545E333D.4060406@few.vu.nl>
To: <public-dwbp-wg@w3.org>
Hi,

Addressing Laufer and Steve's concerns seem to be not about changing what DCAT sees to be a dataset, but rather explaining the parts of DCAT's definition

I.e., 'available for access or download in one or more formats' perfectly covers the case of a set of files, to me.

And an 'agent' can be a group of several entities. This is actually quite similar to the case of 'collections' in cultural heritage and related areas. These are often said to be curated by an agent, which is responsible of it. But this view assume that this single agent can be a person, an organization... or even a completely adhoc, evolving set of persons, like a Flickr group...

Having recognized this, I prefer however to keep to the DCAT general wording, which gently allows for such (perfectly valid) interpretations, without spending more time on debating every bit!

So a big +1 from as well.

Kind regards,

Antoine


On 11/8/14 3:51 PM, Ig Ibert Bittencourt wrote:
> +1 to Makx
>
> On Nov 7, 2014 9:49 PM, "Yaso" <yaso@nic.br <mailto:yaso@nic.br>> wrote:
>
>     +1 to Makx
>
>
>     Em 11/7/14, 12:09 PM, Makx Dekkers escreveu:
>      > My opinion is that we should not try to redefine what's already
>      > well-defined, unless we have a use case that absolutely needs the wider
>      > definition. If not, let's stick with the DCAT one.
>      >
>      > Makx
>      > Op 7 nov. 2014 20:07 schreef "Steven Adler" <adler1@us.ibm.com <mailto:adler1@us.ibm.com>>:
>      >
>      >> Phil,
>      >>
>      >> I wasn't privy to the last definition and am 95% fine with the current
>      >> one.  But it does feels a little narrow to me.  What about:
>      >>
>      >> A collection of data, published or curated by one or more agents, and
>      >> available for access, use, or download in one or more formats.
>      >>
>      >>
>      >> Best Regards,
>      >>
>      >> Steve
>      >>
>      >> Motto: "Do First, Think, Do it Again"
>      >>
>      >> [image: Inactive hide details for Phil Archer ---11/07/2014 10:10:03
>      >> AM---I tried to word the issue relatively objectively just now in]Phil
>      >> Archer ---11/07/2014 10:10:03 AM---I tried to word the issue relatively
>      >> objectively just now in tracker,  allowing for the possibility
>      >>
>      >>
>      >>
>      >>    From:
>      >>
>      >>
>      >> Phil Archer <phila@w3.org <mailto:phila@w3.org>>
>      >>
>      >>    To:
>      >>
>      >>
>      >> Data on the Web Best Practices Working Group <public-dwbp-wg@w3.org <mailto:public-dwbp-wg@w3.org>>
>      >>
>      >>    Date:
>      >>
>      >>
>      >> 11/07/2014 10:10 AM
>      >>
>      >>    Subject:
>      >>
>      >>
>      >> Re: ISSUE-80: We need a definition of "dataset"
>      >> ------------------------------
>      >>
>      >>
>      >>
>      >> I tried to word the issue relatively objectively just now in tracker,
>      >> allowing for the possibility of the WG to come up with a definition of
>      >> 'dataset' other than that in DCAT. More subjectively, I would personally
>      >> be very opposed to any such redefinition unless there were very strong
>      >> arguments for doing so.
>      >>
>      >> Phil.
>      >>
>      >>
>      >> On 07/11/2014 14:25, Data on the Web Best Practices Working Group Issue
>      >> Tracker wrote:
>      >>> ISSUE-80: We need a definition of "dataset"
>      >>>
>      >>> http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/80
>      >>>
>      >>> Raised by:
>      >>> On product:
>      >>>
>      >>>
>      >>>
>      >>>
>      >>>
>      >>>
>      >>
>      >> --
>      >>
>      >>
>      >> Phil Archer
>      >> W3C Data Activity Lead
>      >> http://www.w3.org/2013/data/
>      >>
>      >> http://philarcher.org
>      >> +44 (0)7887 767755 <tel:%2B44%20%280%297887%20767755>
>      >> @philarcher1
>      >>
>      >>
>      >>
>      >>
>      >
>
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