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Re: TLS at transport level vs stream multiplexing and aggregation (http "routers")

From: Roberto Peon <grmocg@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 17 Nov 2013 14:30:03 -0800
Message-ID: <CAP+FsNcDcuo9TVaOzkoQLnjyN_P857sKaoi+3ESMK6KOcDy8hQ@mail.gmail.com>
To: Nicolas Mailhot <nicolas.mailhot@laposte.net>
Cc: Adrien de Croy <adrien@qbik.com>, Mike Belshe <mike@belshe.com>, "ietf-http-wg@w3.org" <ietf-http-wg@w3.org>
Sounds like an interesting experiment (as Mike already said, we considered
this way back when).
-=R


On Sun, Nov 17, 2013 at 1:58 PM, Nicolas Mailhot <
nicolas.mailhot@laposte.net> wrote:

>
> Le Dim 17 novembre 2013 22:44, Adrien de Croy a écrit :
> >
> >
> > ------ Original Message ------
> > From: "Mike Belshe" <mike@belshe.com>
> > To: "Adrien de Croy" <adrien@qbik.com>
> > Cc: "ietf-http-wg@w3.org" <ietf-http-wg@w3.org>
> > Sent: 18/11/2013 10:24:44 a.m.
> > Subject: Re: TLS at transport level vs stream multiplexing and
> > aggregation (http "routers")
> >>I think this is an interesting concept.  We did consider a number of
> >>scenarios like this for SPDY as well - with a small amount of extra
> >>certificate/meta data changes you could do it.
> >>
> >>But you should probably try to garner some implementation experience
> >>with it.  There are a lot of details.  I'm also unclear what the goals
> >>would be.
> >
> > the main goals would be:
> >
> > a) allow aggregation of streams
> > b) allow flexibility around whether crypto is used or not
> > c) allow point to point (e.g. router to router) authentication and
> > privacy (e.g. traversing public networks)
> > d) allow for fault-tolerant system architectures (e.g. by allowing a
> > stream to be handed to another path/router).
>
> Awesome!
>
> and I'd add
>
> e) reuse a security model everyone is knowledgeable and comfortable with,
> physical mail (where routing is public and content -not)
>
> d) clearly separate intermediary auth and messages from endpoint auth and
> messages without requiring to stuff them in a single tls channel that
> requires intermediaries to open to communicate with the client
>
> Regards,
>
> --
> Nicolas Mailhot
>
>
>
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