- From: Mukul Gandhi <gandhi.mukul@gmail.com>
- Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2016 17:22:57 +0530
- To: Michael Kay <mike@saxonica.com>
- Cc: "xmlschema-dev@w3.org" <xmlschema-dev@w3.org>
- Message-ID: <CABuuzNPDtL8+_Kg_EHbgKxcL1R2YuQ=jVPewF+g1TFgvoFznWQ@mail.gmail.com>
As usual Mike, your views are nice to know. My replies are inline please. On 27 July 2016 at 13:07, Michael Kay <mike@saxonica.com> wrote: > There are some cases where there clearly should be an order: in a table, > the head comes before the body. (But why? Only because we are used to > thinking of it that way. We could argue that this is purely a conventional > way of presenting the table, and nothing to do with its semantics.) > I agree. > So from a usability perspective, it's a tough call, but one could probably > say that imposing order makes things a little harder for authors and a > little easier for readers. > I agree. This is a good point. > Note also that the human authors of this document have tended to be very > consistent in the way attributes are ordered, even though the schema > imposes no constraints. When, after a transformation, the dependency > element reads <dependency value="XQ31+" type="spec"/>, that really > upsets the human reader. > This is a good point too. I think, as you said the schema imposes no constraints on attribute ordering (it cannot, because XML itself says that attribute ordering is not predictable). > In fact, that's why I added a serialization property to Saxon to allow you > to control attribute order on output. > I think, this is something nice you've done with Saxon's XSLT processor. > > If you're dealing with a vocabulary like GML that is never authored or > read by humans, then these usability factors play no role, and it's even > harder to find any good reason for deciding between sequence and all. > Thanks for telling about this, and I agree. > There is certainly a good argument for saying that if the ordering carries > no semantic information, there is no case for the schema to impose an order. > Found it little harder to grasp meaning of this. But it is correct. -- Regards, Mukul Gandhi
Received on Wednesday, 27 July 2016 11:54:00 UTC