- From: Henry S. Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk>
- Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2012 10:26:34 +0100
- To: Michael Kay <mike@saxonica.com>
- Cc: "w3c-xsl-query\@w3.org" <w3c-xsl-query@w3.org>, "xmlschema-dev\@w3.org" <xmlschema-dev@w3.org>
Michael Kay writes: > On 22/05/2012 11:06, Henry S. Thompson wrote: >> Michael Kay writes: >> >>> I have been implementing a Saxon extension that exposes the Schema >>> Component Model to XSLT and XQuery applications >> Using functions is cool, but did you consider sticking with XPath? > It does stick with XPath, only it's XPath 3.0... > > I think that attempts to model this information using elements and > attributes suffer two main problems: > > (a) the node identity problem. It's hard to get away from the fact > that elements have identity, and if elements have identity and model > schema components then there is a strong expectation that node > identity reflects component identity, which (a) doesn't reflect the > semantics of the model (which explicitly leaves identity undefined), > and (b) makes a lazy implementation difficult. > > (b) the network modelling problem: the schema component model is a > network, while XML is best at modelling trees. Any attempt to model a > graph in XML leads to (a) to arbitrary decisions about which > relationships to model as XML parent/child relationships, and (b) very > clumsy navigation when you have to follow the non-hierarchic links. > > Using a functional model of the information neatly bypasses both these > issues. Functions in the XPath 3.0 model have no identity, so there is > no way of asking, for example whether two facets with the same > properties are "the same facet". All navigation is done using function > calls so there is no asymmetry between relationships "within the > hierarchy" and relationships "across the hierarchy". > > Michael Kay > Saxonica >> >> See an old Extreme paper for some work we did in Edinburgh along those >> lines a long time back now: >> >> Uniform access to infosets via reflection >> Extreme Markup Languages 2003 >> http://www.ltg.ed.ac.uk/~ht/Extreme_2003.html >> >> ht > > -- Henry S. Thompson, School of Informatics, University of Edinburgh 10 Crichton Street, Edinburgh EH8 9AB, SCOTLAND -- (44) 131 650-4440 Fax: (44) 131 650-4587, e-mail: ht@inf.ed.ac.uk URL: http://www.ltg.ed.ac.uk/~ht/ [mail from me _always_ has a .sig like this -- mail without it is forged spam]
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