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RE: implementing redefinitions

From: Michael Kay <mike@saxonica.com>
Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2005 14:48:09 +0100
To: "'Henry S. Thompson'" <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk>
Cc: "'Kasimier Buchcik'" <kbuchcik@4commerce.de>, "'XML-SCHEMA'" <xmlschema-dev@w3.org>
Message-ID: <E1E5OHF-00062t-UY@lisa.w3.org>

In QT we have to consider a query or transformation as a whole. Documents
are annotated with types, and we need to have confidence that when we see a
type annotation, we know what type it refers to. The processing model
assumes that types can be identified by a QName. For this to work, we can't
have two different types with the same QName within the scope of a query or
transformation (in the XQuery case, this scope is an entire database...).

This is something of a pain, because it means you can't use XSLT to
transform from one version of a schema to another version of the same schema
if it uses the same namespace. Clearly we need a versioning story, as you
have often said yourself...

But it also affects redefine. If I load two documents as inputs to a query
or transformation, one validated using schema A, and the other using schema
R which redefines schema A, then I've got two types with the same name, and
everything (in particular, QT type checking) breaks.

Michael Kay

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Henry S. Thompson [mailto:ht@inf.ed.ac.uk] 
> Sent: 17 August 2005 14:01
> To: Michael Kay
> Cc: 'Kasimier Buchcik'; 'XML-SCHEMA'
> Subject: Re: implementing redefinitions
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> Michael Kay" writes:
> > I'm struggling with this a bit in Saxon. I think the rule I 
> have to adopt is
> > that once a schema component has been used for validating 
> documents that
> > exist in the current "environment" (that is, whose PSVIs I 
> can reach),
> > redefinition of that schema component is banned.
> On an episode-by-episode basis, this makes sense to me, and I think is
> covered at least in many cases by the "no new namespaces once we
> start" provision.
> But across multiple episodes, I don't think the spec. licenses this --
> each episode should be treated completely independently.
> So, the obvious question -- how can their be more than one document in
> the "current 'environment'"?
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