- From: Yan Leshinsky <yanl@microsoft.com>
- Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2001 17:33:50 -0800
- To: "Henry S. Thompson" <ht@cogsci.ed.ac.uk>, "Aung Aung" <aaung@microsoft.com>
- Cc: <xmlschema-dev@w3.org>, "Ashok Malhotra" <ashokma@microsoft.com>, "Huseyin Ulger" <ulger@microsoft.com>, "David Brown (WEBDATA)" <davebrow@microsoft.com>
Wat about related case with substitution groups. Are following schemas
valid?
<xs:schema xmlns:xs="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema">
<xs:element name="A"/>
<xs:element name="B" substitutionGroup="A" type="xs:string"/>
</xs:schema>
<xs:schema xmlns:xs="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema">
<xs:element name="A" type="xs:anyType"/>
<xs:element name="B" substitutionGroup="A" type="xs:string"/>
</xs:schema>
<xs:schema xmlns:xs="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema">
<xs:element name="A"/>
<xs:element name="B" substitutionGroup="A">
<xs:complexType>
...
</xs:complexType>
</xs:element>
</xs:schema>
<xs:schema xmlns:xs="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema">
<xs:element name="A" type="xs:anyType"/>
<xs:element name="B" substitutionGroup="A">
<xs:complexType>
...
</xs:complexType>
</xs:element>
</xs:schema>
Thanks, Yan
-----Original Message-----
From: Henry S. Thompson [mailto:ht@cogsci.ed.ac.uk]
Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2001 2:31 AM
To: Aung Aung
Cc: xmlschema-dev@w3.org; Ashok Malhotra; Huseyin Ulger; Yan Leshinsky;
David Brown (WEBDATA)
Subject: Re: anySimpleType/anyType/ur-type as baseType of a user defined
type?
"Aung Aung" <aaung@microsoft.com> writes:
> Spec says
> In section 3.14.1 of structure spec: "The simple *ur-type definition*
> must not be named as the *base type definition* of any user-defined
> simple types: as it has no constraining facets, this would be
> incoherent."
>
> In section 2.5.2 of datatyes spec: "[Definition:] There exists a
> conceptual datatype, whose name is anySimpleType, that is the simple
> version of the ur-type definition from [XML Schema Part 1:
> Structures]. anySimpleType can be considered as the *base type* of all
> *primitive* types. The *value space* of anySimpleType can be
> considered to be the
> *union* of the *value space*s of all *primitive* datatypes."
>
> That means anySimpleType cannot be used as base type definition of any
> user-defined simple types.
>
> Q1: why does the normative XSD in datatype spec
> (http://www.w3.org/TR/xmlschema-2/#schema) have <restriction
> base="xs:anySimpleType"> all over the places?
Because these are not user-defined types, they are syntactic
approximations to the built-in types.
> Q2:
> The following should all fail to validate. Correct? Or I am missing
> something?
> 1.
> <xs:schema xmlns:xs="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema" >
> <xs:simpleType name="ct1">
> <xs:restriction base="xs:anyType" />
> </xs:simpleType>
> </xs:schema>
Yes, invalid.
> 2.
> <xs:schema xmlns:xs="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema" >
> <xs:simpleType name="ct2">
> <xs:restriction base="xs:anySimpleType" />
> </xs:simpleType>
> </xs:schema>
Yes, invalid.
> 3.
> <xs:schema xmlns:xs="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema" >
> <xs:complexType name="ct4">
> <xs:simpleContent>
> <xs:restriction base="xs:anySimpleType" />
> </xs:simpleContent>
> </xs:complexType>
> </xs:schema>
Yes, invalid.
But you raise an interesting point -- the above don't actually attempt
a restriction, just a private renaming. There's no reason we shouldn't
allow this. The third case in particular, if it contained attributes,
is something people might reasonably wish to do.
I'll raise a potential erratum on this.
ht
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