- From: Henry S. Thompson <ht@cogsci.ed.ac.uk>
- Date: 08 Jul 2001 17:00:39 +0100
- To: Noah_Mendelsohn@lotus.com
- Cc: "Jeff Rafter" <jeffrafter@definedweb.com>, vdv@dyomedea.com, xmlschema-dev@w3.org
Noah_Mendelsohn@lotus.com writes: > Henry Thompson writes: > > >> This is just not true. 12:00:00 is not equal to > >> 12:00:00Z. What _is_ true is that the various > >> timezone-specific ways of specifying a time > >> _are_ equal, e.g. 12:00:00Z is equal to 13:00:00Z+1. > > I had missed the former point, but it was the latter that was the subject > of my note. I think many users find it counterintuitive that 12:00:00Z == > 13:00:00Z+1, as many seem to think they are making a useful record of the > timezone in which the time was noted. All my explanations and warnings > were directed to this case, sorry for having missed the distinction > between times with and without timezones. I still think the decision to > allow timezones, but to make them insignificant in this case, is a > questionable call. Right, so there was certainly a point (in London in January, I think, possibly still at the Tech Plenary in February) when there were 25 disjoint value spaces. But that was clearly bogus, since given our current lexical flexibility to do this right there would have to be 24x60x2 - 1 distinct value spaces. I don't _think_ you want to go there. So I'd invite you to consider again that the problem is not with our date-time ontology, which seems about right to me, but rather is with the common sense interpretation of ordinary lexical forms. I actually find it pretty surprising that your users think 12:00:00Z is different from 13:00:00+1. I wouldn't find it surprising _at all_ if they thought 12:00:00BST was different from 07:00:00EDT. Note that it's the _latter_ which is subject to change by law, but _not_ the former. ht -- Henry S. Thompson, HCRC Language Technology Group, University of Edinburgh W3C Fellow 1999--2001, part-time member of W3C Team 2 Buccleuch Place, Edinburgh EH8 9LW, SCOTLAND -- (44) 131 650-4440 Fax: (44) 131 650-4587, e-mail: ht@cogsci.ed.ac.uk URL: http://www.ltg.ed.ac.uk/~ht/
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