- From: Kevin Beason <beason@cs.fsu.edu>
- Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 23:04:23 +0000
- To: noah_mendelsohn@us.ibm.com
- Cc: Martin Gudgin <mgudgin@microsoft.com>, xmlp-comments@w3.org
Thank you Noah and Martin for the responses. I was just exasperated, as the primer was linked from slashdot.org yesterday, and being unfamiliar with SOAP I was searching for the acronym definition as a basic introduction. In the Wikipedia article it's the very first thing mentioned in the overview. The primer has a section called "Overview" and yet this information is missing. That seemed wrong to me. Please pardon me if I am rude. I'm relatively uninformed and was just frustrated and complaining. Have a good day, Kevin On Thu, 15 Sep 2005 noah_mendelsohn@us.ibm.com wrote: ] Adding a bit to Gudge's response: ] ] The primer is, of course, not the normative specification. In the actual ] SOAP Framework Recommendation we do say [1]: ] ] "In previous versions of this specification the SOAP name was an acronym. ] This is no longer the case. " ] ] Thus, in SOAP 1.2, we do make clear that the term SOAP is no longer an ] acronym for anything. ] ] Why? Well , in earlier versions it was Simple Object Access Protocol. As ] we gradually realized that SOAP was not primarily for Object Access (it's ] for messaging between services that may or may not be implemented as ] objects), that acryonym definition came to seem outright misleading. So, ] our choice was: make up a completely new name, or keep SOAP and drop the ] acronym interpretation. We went for the latter. SOAP was already a very ] well known term, and it's obviously quite catchy. ] ] Noah ] ] [1] http://www.w3.org/TR/soap12-part1/#intro ] ] -------------------------------------- ] Noah Mendelsohn ] IBM Corporation ] One Rogers Street ] Cambridge, MA 02142 ] 1-617-693-4036 ] -------------------------------------- ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] "Martin Gudgin" <mgudgin@microsoft.com> ] Sent by: xmlp-comments-request@w3.org ] 09/15/2005 11:28 AM ] ] To: "Kevin Beason" <beason@cs.fsu.edu>, <xmlp-comments@w3.org> ] cc: (bcc: Noah Mendelsohn/Cambridge/IBM) ] Subject: RE: SOAP primer ] ] ] ] SOAPs acronym status was revoked sometime during the development of the ] 1.2 version of the protocol. ] ] Gudge ] ] > -----Original Message----- ] > From: xmlp-comments-request@w3.org ] > [mailto:xmlp-comments-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of Kevin Beason ] > Sent: 14 September 2005 06:46 ] > To: xmlp-comments@w3.org ] > Subject: SOAP primer ] > ] > ] > ] > ] > ] > ] > It's amazing you don't even define what SOAP as an acronym ] > means in the ] > primer. That seems like particularly relevant information. ] > ] > Just my two cents. ] > ] > -- ] > ] > .-=^-----------------------------////=---------------------------^=-. ] > Kevin M. Beason FSU computer science graduate ] > beason@cs.fsu.edu ] > work(850)644-5437 cell(850)545-5977 ] > http://www.cs.fsu.edu/~beason/ ] > ] > ^=-.---------=///----------------------=////---------------------.-=^ ] > ] > ] ] ] -- .-=^-----------------------------////=---------------------------^=-. Kevin M. Beason FSU computer science graduate beason@cs.fsu.edu work(850)644-5437 cell(850)545-5977 http://www.cs.fsu.edu/~beason/ ^=-.---------=///----------------------=////---------------------.-=^
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