- From: Appleton, Pete M <PMAppleton@bemis.com>
- Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 16:06:53 -0600
- To: "'Joseph Hui'" <jhui@digisle.net>, "Mountain, Highland M" <highland.m.mountain@intel.com>, "Mark Baker" <distobj@acm.org>, "Appleton, Pete M" <PMAppleton@bemis.com>
- cc: xml-dist-app@w3.org
+1 <snip /> > So I was in SOAP (context) and I didn't even know it > (when I responded to Mark's new thread). ;-) > No matter. I'll do what I can to clarify, by answering > the question directly. > The SOAP envolope should be the super structure for the > in-band and out-of-band data, i.e. data should be contained > within the SOAP envelope. > It's bad engineering to transfer data of identical PDU > type -- in this case, SOAP is the PDU type -- in separate > protocols, let alone seperate protocol layers. (SOAP sits > above HTTP.) So no. > > > Are you implying that these should only be handled > > by HTTP extended headers? > > Also no, absolutely not. > Doing so will make binding SOAP to other reliable > transports (like TCP) infeasible. > (TCP's out-of-band (aka urgent) data semantics stink. > But that's another story. :-) Sure do!!!! > > Hope it helps. > > Joe Hui > Exodus, a Cable & Wireless service > ========================================== > > > > Joe Hui > > Exodus, a Cable & Wireless service > > ============================================ > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Mark Baker [mailto:distobj@acm.org] > > > Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2002 11:15 AM > > > To: Appleton Pete M > > > Cc: highland.m.mountain@intel.com; xml-dist-app@w3.org > > > Subject: T is for Transfer > > > > > > > > > > Yes, I do see HTTP as being purely transport. > > > > > > With all due respect, it doesn't matter how you see it, it > > is *not* a > > > transport protocol. You can use it this way, the same way I > > > can use any > > > application protocol as a transport protocol by > > disregarding the task > > > that the application protocol is trying to coordinate. But > > > that doesn't > > > make it one. > > > > > > http://www.ics.uci.edu/~fielding/pubs/dissertation/evaluation. > > htm#sec_6_5_3 > > > > MB > > -- > > Mark Baker, Chief Science Officer, Planetfred, Inc. > > Ottawa, Ontario, CANADA. mbaker@planetfred.com > > http://www.markbaker.ca http://www.planetfred.com > > > > >
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