- From: Williams, Stuart <skw@hplb.hpl.hp.com>
- Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2001 18:50:30 +0100
- To: "'Henrik Frystyk Nielsen'" <henrikn@microsoft.com>, Noah_Mendelsohn@lotus.com
- Cc: Jacek Kopecky <jacek@idoox.com>, "Williams, Stuart" <skw@hplb.hpl.hp.com>, xml-dist-app@w3.org
I guess I continue to find the notion of identifying a target as 'anon' a little puzzling. I'm quite used to sending correspondence to an actor that does not identify a particular recipient eg. "HM Govt. Inspector of Taxes". "HM Govt. Inspector of Taxes" might indeed be denote the ultimate recipient a I might be message (my tax return) that I'm sending. I've a feeling that it would be trusting a little too much to luck to identify the target actor for my tax return as 'anon' or even 'default'. Certainly, the envelope that I send my tax return in has a distinctive brownish tinge that characterises correspondence with the tax-office - and that may be one of the factors by which the Royal Mail manage to get my message to the tax inspector and by which the a tax inspector might determine that a tax return targetted at 'anon' is really intended for them. I guess I'm more familiar with 'anon' being used as a means to hide the identity of the sender. Best regards Anon. [Well I did'nt really think I'd get away with this, but it is intended to be light hearted :-)] > -----Original Message----- > From: Henrik Frystyk Nielsen [mailto:henrikn@microsoft.com] > Sent: 05 October 2001 17:43 > To: Noah_Mendelsohn@lotus.com > Cc: Jacek Kopecky; Williams, Stuart; xml-dist-app@w3.org > Subject: RE: Issue 140 bogus? > > > > Sure, but the main piece here seems to be that an actor by some means > knows that it can take on the role of the anonymous actor > meaning that > it deals with all parts of the message targeted at the > anonymous actor. > > The difference in opinion seems to be that I would prefer to be formal > about saying *what* it means to act in the role of the > anonymous actor, > rather than *how* that can be accomplished. Whether a message is > forwarded or not seems to be directed at how rather than what. > > Henrik > > >Sure, but from a SOAP architecture point of view I would say: > >you've got > >one node there, and you've decided to do a distributed > >implementation of > >its responsibilities. That's fine. From a SOAP > architecture point of > >view, I think you have one opaque node. The machines you've wired > >together collectively have the responsibility to meet the > >specifications > >of a SOAP ultimate receiver, and not to (in SOAP terms) > >further forward > >the message. Of course, nothing can prevent anyone from > >creating new SOAP > >messages which happen to pull data out of the original, > >distribute data > >extracted from the message etc. >
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