- From: Jacek Kopecky <jacek@idoox.com>
- Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2001 15:41:02 +0200 (CEST)
- To: "Williams, Stuart" <skw@hplb.hpl.hp.com>
- cc: David Fallside <fallside@us.ibm.com>, <xml-dist-app@w3.org>
Yes, my text was more a primer-speak (I think), your text is
more spec-speak. 8-)
The information about Actor URIs seems to be scattered now, both
sections 2.2 and 4.2.2 contain some of it, maybe some
consolidation is necessary.
Other than that, I tend to prefer putting the actor-choosing
discussion note in the primer and not in the spec, as it
basically says "you can do anything you will". I don't think such
a section belongs to the spec which is mant to set rules.
Let's see what the telcon brings. 8-)
Jacek Kopecky
Idoox
http://www.idoox.com/
On Wed, 3 Oct 2001, Williams, Stuart wrote:
> Hi Jacek,
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jacek Kopecky [mailto:jacek@idoox.com]
> > Sent: 03 October 2001 10:55
> > To: Williams, Stuart
> > Cc: David Fallside; xml-dist-app@w3.org
> > Subject: RE: Issue 140 bogus?
> >
> >
> > Stuart,
> > so it seems that to resolve your issue #140 you'd like to see
> > some informative discussion on the bases for determining the
> ^^^^^basis
> > Actor URI set of the node for this message, right?
>
> Just about right! I'm less interested in enumerating the set of Actor URIs
> than I am in discussion of the possible basis upon which a SOAP Node decides
> that it performs the role of a particular actor with respect to a given
> message. Enumerating the set and testing for set membership certainly would
> do.
>
> > I may try to propose a first draft of such a discussion. Below
> > is what I would say taking into account my SOAP building
> > experience:
> >
> > ------- begin
> > The set of Actor URIs that the node assumes for processing a
> > message can come from various sources:
> >
> > - the Specification: ".../next" is always in the set
> > - static configuration for a combination of the endpoint URL,
> > SOAPAction URI (when applicable), even first Body child's qname
> > or an other part of the message.
> > - dynamic configuration based on some (as yet unknown) extension
> > whose SOAP block would carry the necessary information.
> >
> > This set could include the empty Actor URI which would mean that
> > this node is the final receiver of the message.
> > ------- end
> >
> > This is a very first rough draft of what I think might satisfy
> > issue #140. Stuart, others, is this a good proposal? 8-)
>
> I've a slightly different suggestion, but I think the spirit is the same.
> Something like the following at the end of Section 4.2.2 in Part 2 would
> work for me. This may need a little work by the editors, the first two items
> tersely restate what is in the 3rd to last and 2nd to last para of the
> current 4.2.2. The last item is the informative item which I think would
> cover what I think is missing. Stylistically the MAY may not be the right
> way to 'tack' this on to the list...
>
> ---being
> In determing whether a SOAP Node performs the role of a particular actor
> with respect to SOAP message that is being processed, a SOAP Node:
>
> - MUST always performs the role of the ".../next" actor.
> - MUST never perform the role of the "../none" actor.
> - MAY make a determination based upon such factors as:
> local configuration information;
> the receiving transport endpoint address;
> the message content (covers dynamic content and 1st body
> child);
> any other implemenation dependent factors;
> ---end
>
> >
> > As for where to put it, I think that as a non-normative
> > discussion it could fit very well into the primer. 8-)
>
> The primer might want to expand on it by example. Personally I continue to
> think that the spec should offer something. Part 4.2.2 seems like thre right
> place to me, but I'll go with the flow.
>
> >
> > It's on the agenda today, so we can propose some draft resolution
> > during the telcon. 8-)
> >
> > Jacek Kopecky
> >
> > Idoox
> > http://www.idoox.com/
>
> Regards
>
> Stuart
>
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