- From: Eamon O'Tuathail <eamon.otuathail@clipcode.com>
- Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2001 11:06:43 +0100
- To: <xml-dist-app@w3.org>
To get interoperability, surely we need to define both the envelope encapsulation *AND* how it gets exchanged over an application protocol. There may be many (M) encapsulations (text, binary, multi-part) and there may be many (N) application protocols (BEEP, HTTP, Custom over TCP) and it is better to define each just once, so rather than M*N definitions, we have M+N definitions. If you want to send me a SOAP envelope, it is no good us agreeing on the layout of the octets if we can't agree on how to decide where one message stops and the next begins (framing). This, and a number of other services, are provided by an application protocol. We can argue whether BEEP or HTTP or whatever is better as an application protocol, but the general services they provide are needed - and some piece of functionality must provide them. Hence I think the diagram at: http://www.w3.org/2000/xp/Group/1/04/23/XMLProtocolAbstractModel.html#Sec5.1 .1 is wrong. The TCP column (left-most column) is completely missing an application protocol. TCP is not providing you with framing (etc.) - so which component is? There should be a small box in that column identifying this component, with a name such as "custom". Both you and I might be able to handle TCP connections and might be able to understand SOAP XML 1.0 envelopes - but that still does mean we can communicate - we also need to agree the details in the middle - how the encoding is carried in the transport. Eamon P.S. Check out the paper "On the Design of Application Protocols" (http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-mrose-beep-design-03.txt)
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