Re: Z39.50 Extended Services / Item Order

Actually, I found these values ("Unfilled Copyright" vs. "Filled Copyright") in both versions of Z39.50 Protocol, 1995 & 2003 (Appendix 18 ASN1: Z39.50 ASN.1, ASN1.10 Z39.50 ASN.1 Definitions for Extended Services). You can see the full version of Z39.50-2003 at address: http://www.niso.org/standards/resources/Z39-50-2003.pdf

According to the Z39.50 Protocol, among the specific parameters for Item Order, there is the "StatusOrErrorReport" Parameter, which is mandatory and can be based on the StatusOrErrorReport APDU of the ILL Protocol. In addition, the "AuxiliaryStatus" Parameter may be provided as a supplement to the status information provided by the StatusOrErrorReport, but I assume that the values given in the above section of the protocol (including "filled & unfilled copyright") have nothing to do with the ILL Status-Or-Error-Report  APDU.

Consequently, the definition of StatusOrErrorReport is external to the Protocol -it indeed may be based on the ILL APDU-, but the values of AuxiliaryStatus, defined as "IMPLICIT INTEGER", are those given in Z39.50 Protocol. Right?

Thank you, anyway, for your interest.
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Shuh Barbara 
  To: Ray Denenberg ; Troutpegli Dina ; www-zig@w3.org 
  Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 4:15 PM
  Subject: RE: Z39.50 Extended Services / Item Order


  Sorry, Ray, but "Unfilled Copyright" vs. "Filled Copyright": are not values from the ILL protocol (ISO 10161).   So I'm not sure what Dina is referencing.  Dina, what is your source for these two values?  

  I don't find anything like this in Profiles 1 & 2 for the Item Order Extended Service.  All I find is the parameter, taken from the ILL-REQUEST APDU in the ISO 10161-1 specification, "copyright-compliance".  

  It is defined as an ILL-String - i.e., free text that indicates the "applicable copyright regulations or laws to which the requester is adhering".  This will vary from country to country.  There is guidance for current implementors using the IPIG Profile of ISO 10161-1 in clause  6.2.2 and Annex C of 
  Guidelines for Implementors of the IPIG Profile for the meaning of the strings to be used in the U.S. and the U.K.
  (find links to PDF or Word DOC files on http://www.lac-bac.gc.ca/iso/ill/ipigprfl.htm )  

  In the ILL-ANSWER APDU of ISO 10161-1, there is a list of enumerated values providing reasons why an ILL request could not be satistifed or "filled".  One of these values is "lacks-copyright-compliance", which is an indication from the responder that it requires a statement of complicance with the applicable copyright regulations or laws before the item can be supplied."  But the ILL-ANSWER message is not covered in the Item Order Extended Service.


  Barb Shuh
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  From: www-zig-request@w3.org [mailto:www-zig-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of Ray Denenberg
  Sent: Monday, November 22, 2004 7:01 PM
  To: Troutpegli Dina; www-zig@w3.org
  Subject: Re: Z39.50 Extended Services / Item Order


  "Private Known" vs. "Prvate Not Known":  You'll note on the ASN.1 that the first is type null and the second external.  Thus, privateKnown if present has no value and its presence is an indication that the payment method is known between the two parties(but not exchanged in the protocol). PrivateNotKnown means that some external structure is supplied. 

  "Unfilled Copyright" vs. "Filled Copyright": Sorry, can't help you. These are value straight out of the ILL protocol (ISO 10161). Perhaps one of the ILL protocol folks can help.

  --Ray

    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Troutpegli Dina 
    To: www-zig@w3.org 
    Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2004 7:27 AM
    Subject: Z39.50 Extended Services / Item Order


    Dear all,

    I am a Librarian and currently work at an organization that develops a software based on Z39.50 Protocol. Trying to interpret the Item Order Extended Service in order to incorporate this particular function in our Z-client, we have a difficulty in understanding the meaning of two specific parameters.

    The first is about the values "Private Known" & "Private Not Known" found at Payment Method. The second is about the values "Unfilled Copyright" & "Filled Copyright" found at Auxiliary Status.

    Your lights on the particular topics would be very helpful.

    Thank you in advance.

    Dina Troutpegli
    e-mail: troutpegli@ekt.gr