- From: Clayphan, Robina <Robina.Clayphan@bl.uk>
- Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2002 12:18:09 +0100
- To: "'Shuh Barbara'" <barbara.shuh@nlc-bnc.ca>, "Gladwell, Kevin" <Kevin.Gladwell@bl.uk>, www-zig@w3.org
- Cc: "Oldroyd, Bill" <Bill.Oldroyd@bl.uk>, "Alexander, Michael" <Michael.Alexander@bl.uk>, "Masters, Richard" <Richard.Masters@bl.uk>, "Clayphan, Robina" <Robina.Clayphan@bl.uk>
Hello Barbara, Temporal/Coverage. The DC-Lib does not propose that this is used for the duration of a resource. Duration should be recorded in Format/Extent. DC-Lib should maybe put a note in for the sake of clarity. At the moment, for Coverage/Temporal it echoes the definitions in the DC Element Set and DC Qualifier documents and the Usage Guide. A Best Practice note allows use of the same date formats as proposed in DC-Lib for the Date elements but some of these are yet to be defined. I suspect the confusion arises from the use of the word "extent" in the definition of Coverage where it is referring to what the intellectual content covers rather than how long a resource will take to execute. (Edited from the Usage Guide) "Element Description: The extent or scope of the content of the resource. Coverage will typically include ... temporal period (a period label, date, or date range) ... . Recommended best practice is to select a value from a controlled vocabulary .... and that, where appropriate, named places or time periods be used in preference to numeric identifiers such as sets of co-ordinates or date ranges." http://dublincore.org/documents/2000/07/16/usageguide/sectb.shtml#coverage Regards, Robina -----Original Message----- From: Shuh Barbara [mailto:barbara.shuh@nlc-bnc.ca] Sent: 22 April 2002 17:38 To: 'Gladwell, Kevin'; www-zig@w3.org Cc: Oldroyd, Bill; Alexander, Michael; Masters, Richard; Clayphan, Robina Subject: RE: Bib-2 and the DC-Lib Thanks, Kevin, for your 5 questions. I've responded to each point you made below. As has been suggested by Rob and I in the list discussion earlier today, I think that the response for most issues is that, where the data, as defined in the DC-Lib Profile, does not match the Bib-2 attributes, and is not covered in other Attribute Sets (such as the Utility Set and the MARC Set), that a separate set be developed for DC-Lib. If names of elements have to be changed to match the Z39.50 queries up with DC, then it has to be done in the Cross Domain Set first. And, Kevin, I would welcome some elucidation on the etc., etc., etc., if you have time - over time. i) DC-Lib uses DC CREATOR, CONTRIBUTOR and PUBLISHER however they also defined a qualifier called DCMI Agent Detail which can be family name, given names, name, affiliation location, description, date time and identifier. In Bib-2 there are 4 different structural qualifiers for NAME. How could Bib-2 be used to search for a family name in a document described by DC-Lib? BAS: I would expect that the search would have to be mapped to: (1) Access Point [Cross-Domain Set] = (3) Name (2) Semantic Qualifier [Bib-2] = (3) Personal If one really needs to get more specific, one would include attribute from the MARC Attribute Set limiting the search to those personal name attributes where Tags 100 and 700 1st indicator = 3 Family name. ii) DC-Lib for RESOURCE TYPE uses DCMI Type Vocabulary (http://dublincore.org/documents/2000/07/11/dcmi-type-vocabulary/) as qualifiers to Resource Type, these are not included in Bib-2. BAS: I see that DC-Lib specific vocabularies such as this would be part of an auxiliary DC-Lib attribute set. iii) DC-Lib and Bib-2 for SUBJECT both have the content authority (encoding schema in DC-Lib) of LCSH, LCC, MeSH and UDC. DC-Lib also has DDC and bib-2 has 18 additional content authorities. BAS: I don't see a problem here. Bib-2 has provided an enumeration of the codes that are explicitly used in MARC 21 (LCSH, LCC, MeSH, NAL, CSH and RVM), plus a list of different subject and classification systems that were covered in Bib-1, but not in the MARC lists. iv) DC-Lib uses coverage/temporal for duration and coverage/spatial for geographic referent. Coverage/spatial includes using the Thesaurus of Geographic Names. BAS: I believe that we had discussion on these attributes at the Boston Spa meeting, and at that time, Paul Miller indicated that the DC data element, Coverage, didn't apply to such things. But it looks like the story has changed since last October, because the DC documentation appears to have extended the meaning of that element to cover these elements. And the definition of the "Coverage" attribute in the Z39.50 Cross-Domain set gives no hint that such attributes as duration and geographic referrent should be covered there. Since Bib-2 is closely tied to the Cross-Domain Attribute Set, it is in the Cross-Domain Set that the change would first be made. BUT, From the definition given for Coverage/temporal, I'm not sure what it is. (Hint to Robina that the text of this DC-Lib definition is not very clear:-) Presumably, you think that it is meant to convey "Duration" - but I can't tell from the definition given in DC-Lib. RE: "Coverage/Spatial" Although the DC Encoding schemes include things like the MARC Geographic Area Codes and MARC Country Codes, the recommended best practice is to use a value from a controlled vocabulary, (such as the Thesaurus of Geographic Names) and not to use numeric identifiers such as sets of coordinates or date ranges. v) The DC-Lib DATE has some qualifiers that are not in Bib-2 e.g. date/modified how would this be searched for using Bib-2? BAS: This query uses elements defined in the Utility Set, so not required in Bib-2 I.e., (1) Access Point [Utility Set] = (1) Record Date/time (12) Functional Qualifier [Utility Set] = (3) Modification Barb ______________________ Barbara Shuh Library Network Specialist National Library of Canada Phone: (613) 995-1701 Fax: (613) 943-1939 E-mail: barbara.shuh@nlc-bnc.ca ********************************************************************** Coming soon to the British Library Galleries : Trading Places : the East India Company and Asia (from 24 May) Magic Pencil : Children's Book Illustration Today (from 1 November) ********************************************************************** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended for the addressee(s) only. 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