- From: David Martin <martin@ai.sri.com>
- Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2003 22:47:15 -0700
- To: Feng Pan <pan@ISI.EDU>
- Cc: Monika Solanki <monika@dmu.ac.uk>, hobbs@ISI.EDU, www-ws@w3.org
Feng Pan wrote: Monika, thanks for looking at this! > Hi Monika, > > >>Process.owl: >><owl:ObjectProperty rdf:ID="startTime"> >> <rdfs:comment> Start time for the Event </rdfs:comment> >> <rdfs:domain rdf:resource="#ProcessComponent"/> >> <rdfs:range rdf:resource="&time;#Instant"/> >></owl:ObjectProperty> >> >><owl:ObjectProperty rdf:ID="endTime"> >> <rdfs:comment> End time for the Event </rdfs:comment> >> <rdfs:domain rdf:resource="#ProcessComponent"/> >> <rdfs:range rdf:resource="&time;#Instant"/> >></owl:ObjectProperty> >>Time-entry.owl >><owl:ObjectProperty rdf:ID="begins"> >> <rdf:type rdf:resource="&owl;FunctionalProperty" /> >> <rdfs:domain rdf:resource="#TemporalThing" /> >> <rdfs:range rdf:resource="#InstantThing" /> >> </owl:ObjectProperty> >> >> <owl:ObjectProperty rdf:ID="ends"> >> <rdf:type rdf:resource="&owl;FunctionalProperty" /> >> <rdfs:domain rdf:resource="#TemporalThing" /> >> <rdfs:range rdf:resource="#InstantThing" /> >> </owl:ObjectProperty> >> >>startTime corresponds to begins [do we want to make this a subproperty?] >>endTime corresponds to ends > > > > Yes, "begins/ends" in entry subontology of time can replace the > "startTime/endTime". I don't think subproperty is needed unless you > want to have more specific begins or ends for process component, for > example, "process_begins" with its domain restricted to > "ProcessComponent" rather than the general "TemporalThing". Well, let's be clear about this. We can't start using begins/ends as properties of processes, unless we arrange for Process to be part of the domain of begins/ends. One way to do this would be to make Process a subclass of TemporalThing, and I think this has been part of Jerry's thinking all along. Am I right, Jerry? Does this sound reasonable to everyone? (If we *don't* want to do that, of course we could keep our existing properties startTime and endTime, and just change their ranges to be InstantThing.) >>The domain values are ofcourse different, however the difference in the >>range value would not really matter as InstantThing >>is a union of Instant and InstantEvent. > > > > Yes, we generalized Instant and Interval to InstantThing and IntervalThing > to include events (InstantEvent/IntervalEvent). > > > >>Similarly we have >> Process.owl >><owl:ObjectProperty rdf:ID="during"> >> <rdfs:comment> Event/Process is during Interval, the exact time >> interval over which the event occurs >> </rdfs:comment> >> <rdfs:domain rdf:resource="#ProcessComponent"/> >> <rdfs:range rdf:resource="&time;#Interval"/> >></owl:ObjectProperty> >> >>Time-entry.owl >> <owl:ObjectProperty rdf:ID="intDuring"> >> <rdfs:subPropertyOf rdf:resource="#startsOrDuring" /> >> <rdfs:domain rdf:resource="#ProperIntervalThing" /> >> <rdfs:range rdf:resource="#ProperIntervalThing" /> >> </owl:ObjectProperty> >> >>Feng, are these semantically the same?, I am not very clear here. > > > > If "ProcessComponent" is defined as "IntervalEvent" in entry sub-ontology, > "during" property can be safely removed, because the sub-ontology has > generalized all the properties and relations of intervals to interval > things (i.e. intervals and interval events), so that you can specify > temporal properties (e.g. begins/ends, duration) directly for interval > events (e.g. process components). ProcessComponent is the union of Process and another class called ControlConstruct, and I'm thinking we should just make ControlConstruct a subclass of TemporalThing, also. To me, that's conceptually OK. What we had in mind with "during" was to say that a ProcessComponent occurs during some interval. Is intDuring appropriate for that? Maybe we should just delete "during". That is, if we have begins/ends, why do we also need during? What's the relationship between TemporalThing and IntervalEvent? > > > >>In process.owl we have properties like timeout and timeoutAbsolute, the >>documentation for which says the following >> >>We may need absolute timeout (like calender time or timeOfDay, so >>we allow for the timeoutAbsolute property >> >>Here, can we use "inCalendarClock", which has as range >>"CalendarClockDescription", which has everything that might be needed to >>specify timeoutAbsolute ? > > > > "inCalendarClock" is a property of instant things (i.e. instants and > instant events) that specifies an instant thing in a specific > calendar-clock interval, but "timeout" and "timeoutAbsolute" are > properties of process components that should be interval events. > > I think what you want to say is the duration of a timeout interval of a > process component, for example, time out after 5 days, right? I think the intention was for "timeout" to be an interval, as you describe above, but for timeoutAbsolute to give a particular instant at which a timeout occurs. (So the range of timeoutAbsolute in the current Process.owl doesn't make sense. Seems to me it should become InstantThing.) > > In order to do this, I suggest you keep the timeoutAbsolute definition: > > <owl:ObjectProperty rdf:ID="timeoutAbsolute"> > <rdfs:domain rdf:resource="#ProcessComponent"/> > <rdfs:range rdf:resource="&time;#Interval"/> > </owl:ObjectProperty> > > Then, you can use either the "durationDescriptionOf" or > "durationDescriptionDataType" property to describe the duration of the > time out interval. That makes sense to me, but for timeout, not timeoutAbsolute. timeoutAbsolute would be the same, except for a range of InstantThing. Everyone, please feel free to comment. Thanks, David
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