- From: Jonathan Marsh <jmarsh@microsoft.com>
- Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2005 10:01:47 -0800
- To: <www-ws-desc@w3.org>
0. Dial in information (members only) [.1]:
See the public WG page [.2] for pointers to current documents and other information, and the private page [.3] for administrative matters.
If you have additions to the agenda, please email them to the WG list before the start of the telcon.
[.1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-ws-desc/2005Mar/0005.html
[.2] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/
[.3] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/admin
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Agenda
1. Welcome new member: Kendall Clark, MIND Lab
Assign scribe. Lucky minute taker for this week is one of:
Prasad Yendluri, Youenn Fablet, Kevin Liu, Umit Yalcinalp,
Paul Downey, Dale Moberg, Tom Jordahl, Jean-Jacques Moreau,
Tony Rogers, Rebecca Bergersen, Hugo Haas
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2. Approval of minutes:
- Feb 24 telcon [.1]
- Mar 3-4 FTF (.2, .3) and summary (.4)
[.1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2005Feb/att-0070/20050224-ws-desc-minutes.html
[.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2005Mar/att-0021/20050303-ws-desc-minutes.html
[.3] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2005Mar/att-0021/20050304-ws-desc-minutes.html
[.4] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2005Mar/0021.html
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3. Review of Action items [.1]. Editorial actions [.2].
? 2004-04-01: Marsh will get schema tf going.
? 2004-09-02: Bijan to create stylesheet to generate a
table of components and properties.
? 2004-09-16: Editors to move App C to RDF Mapping spec,
except the frag-id which will move
within media-type reg appendix.
? 2004-09-16: Editors to fix paragraph 6-9 of section
2.1.1 moved into 2.1.2
which talks about the syntax.
? 2004-10-14: Editors to add a statement like:
The Style property may constrain both
input and output, however a particular
style may constrain in only one
direction. In Section 2.4.1.1 of Part 1.
? 2004-11-09: DaveO to work on text for option
3 (redefining conformance in terms
of building the component model)
(LC5f)
? 2004-11-09: DaveO will recast the @compatibleWith
proposal using an extension namespace.
(LC54)
DONE [.7] 2004-11-10: Sanjiva to write the rationale for
rejecting LC75a
? 2004-11-10: Glen will post an e-mail describing
the compromise proposal on formal objections.
? 2004-11-10: Editor remove ambiguity if it exists
? 2004-11-10: Sanjiva will write up this proposal
and email it to the list as a response
to the objection.
? 2004-11-11: Anish to propose additions to the
test suite for the purpose of
interoperability testing.
RETIRED 2004-11-18: Mini-task force to propose one or two
proposals for the group for LC5f.
? 2004-12-03: Glen and Asir to help craft the specific text
for the editors (LC18).
MOVED 2004-12-03: Glen to send example on feature stuff for primer
DONE [.3] 2005-01-06: MTD Editors to add note saying content-type
is not sufficient, information to be
provided via other mechanism, for
example xsi:type"
DONE [.3] 2005-01-06: MTD editors implement proposal 2 for issue
260.
? 2005-01-06: Umit? to respond to Larry, "not dynamic,
other solutions equally bad, not
recommendation track, if problems
happy to consider those"
DONE [.3] 2005-01-13: Editors of media type doc to
implement issue 261 resolution
DONE [.3] 2005-01-13: Editors of media type doc to
implement issue 262 resolution
DONE [.3] 2005-01-13: Editors of media type doc to
implement 262 and 273
? 2005-01-13: Part 1 Editors to incorporate the text
at 2004Dec/0022.html.
MOVED 2005-01-13: Editors of media type doc to
resolve 275 editorially
? 2005-01-19: Part 1 Editors to call out the difference
between WSDL 1.1 and 2.0 in respect to
single interface per service, and
indicate alternatives
? 2005-01-19: Part 1 Editors to rewrite ONMR as Best
practice.
DONE [.4] 2005-01-20: Asir to think about mU and possibly
propose some clarification text
? 2005-01-20: Arthur to come up with primer text
to show fault reuse and fault code.
DONE [.4] 2005-02-03: Asir to work with primer eds on SOAP 1.1
example.
? 2005-02-03: Part 1 editors to incorporate text from
Jan/0026 and Feb/0006.
DONE [.6] 2005-02-17: Asir to review table on how import and include
actually work (added by JJM)
DONE [.5] 2005-02-17: Umit and Anish to complete editorial work on
media type description before ftf
? 2005-02-17: Jacekk to help Bijan advance the RDF mapping work
DONE [.8] 2005-03-03: Jonathan to formalize the CR criteria bag and
drop "testing type system extensibility" into it
? 2005-03-03: Jonathan will ask the WG what is the publication
plan for the type system note around 3/17.
? 2005-03-03: Asir to double check the subissues of 76d to
see if they should be raised as issues and to
do so.
? 2005-03-04: Umit to add a warning along the lines of:
"The intent of the expectedMediaType attribute
is to allow WSDL authors to indicate the range
of media types that are acceptable for the
binary data for which it is defined for, hence
it serves as an design time indicator for
possible contentType values that are expected.
Therefore, authors are recommended to use wild
cards with care, and recommended to indicate the
list of media types if the set is limited."
DONE [.3] 2005-03-04: Media type editors to rename xmlmime: to xmime
? 2005-03-04: Editors to merge parts 2 and 3, move the rpc
style from part 1 into it and name the result
"Adjuncts".
? 2005-03-04: Roberto to come up with a proposal for LC75g
(wildcards in rpc style)
[.1] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/#actions
[.2] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/4/lc-issues/actions.html
[.3] http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/2002/ws/desc/media-types/xml-media-types.html
[.4] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-ws-desc/2005Feb/0033.html
[.5] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2005Mar/0003.html
[.6] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2005Feb/0073.html
[.7] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2005Feb/0074.html
[.8] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/CRCriteria.html
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4. Administrivia
a. Upcoming FTF dates:
- April 21-22, Mountain View (Microsoft)
Registration [.1] Logistics [.2]
- May 30 Berlin?
[.1] http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/34041/wsdwgf2f0504/
[.2] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/5/Logistics-2005-04-21.html
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5. Primer [.1]
- DBooth and Kevin solicit help for Advanced Topics section [.2]
- Volunteers for the following sections:
+ Section 7.2 Features and Properties (Glen)
+ Section 7.3 Import mechanism and authoring style (Arthur)
+ Section 7.4 Multiple Logical WSDL Documents Describing the
Same Service (David)
+ Section 7.5 Versioning and Service Equivalency (Paul)
+ Section 7.6 MTOM Support (Marsh)
+ Section 7.8 Operation Style and RPC (Umit)
+ Section 7.11 Service References (Arthur)
+ Section 7.12 XML Schema Examples (Paul)
+ Section 7.13 Multiple In-Line Schemas (Arthur)
+ Section 7.14 The schemaLocation Attribute (Arthur)
+ Section 7.15 Mapping to RDF and Semantic Web (Bijan Jacek)
- Sections marked as "at risk" if no volunteer can be found:
+ Section 7.7 Security Considerations
- Propose closing Issue LC89i: Need Primer [.3]
[.1] http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/2002/ws/desc/wsdl20/wsdl20-primer.html
[.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2005Feb/0004.html
[.3] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/4/lc-issues/issues.html#LC89i
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6. Media Type Description issues [.1]
- Issue resolutions have been incorporated [.2]
- Review (briefly) and close editorial issues marked "no change"
- 256, 257
- 269 (expectedContentTypes)
- 275, 276, 277 (xs:base64Binary vs. xmime:base64Binary)
- Propose to close accepted editorial issues:
- 253, 254, 255, 264, 265, 267, 274
[.1] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/2/06/issues.html#detailList
[.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2005Mar/0003.html
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7. Last Call Issues [.1]. Comments list [.2]
- In-Multi-Out MEP [.3]
[.1] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/4/lc-issues/
[.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-desc-comments/
[.3] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-desc-comments/2005Mar/0000.html
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8. Feature & Property composition issues
- Propose to close LC20 [.1] LC27 [.2]
- Arthur and Asir reported no further edge cases.
[.1] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/4/lc-issues/issues.html#LC20
[.2] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/4/lc-issues/issues.html#LC27
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9. Component model necessary? Z notation necessary?
- We don't have an open issue on the thread [.1].
[.1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2005Mar/0006.html
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10. Component model changes
- LC105: Proposal for Simplifications to the Component Model [.2]
- Arthur's modification to the LC105 proposal [.3]
- Need to decide whether to allow "property" extensions at the
top level.
- Resolutions so far:
+ Add constraint that top-level components must be unique.
+ Add parent property to nested components.
[.1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2005Jan/0060.html
[.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2005Jan/0056.html
[.3] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2005Jan/0066.html
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11. Issue LC75u: Add wsdl:documentation to the component model [.1]
[.1] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/4/lc-issues/issues.html#LC75u
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12. Issue LC80: Extension Components are not Described [.1]
[.1] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/4/lc-issues/issues.html#LC80
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13. Issue LC83: The Component Model Does Not Enforce Component
Nesting [.1]
[.1] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/4/lc-issues/issues.html#LC83
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14. Issue LC99: Message Reference Component is Underspecified [.1]
[.1] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/4/lc-issues/issues.html#LC99
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15. Issue LC54: WSDL Last Call issue
- Awaiting DaveO's further action to cast @compatibleWith as an
extension
[.1] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/4/lc-issues/#LC54
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16. Issue LC84b: [.1]
- Hugo's draft proposal [.2]
[.1] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/4/lc-issues/issues.html#LC84b
[.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2005Feb/0035.html
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17. Issue LC74: Idle question [.1]
- Can WSDL 2.0 import WSDL 1.0?
- Note that the resolution to LC5e [.2] defines WSDL Document as
WSDL 2.0 namespace.
- Options:
a) No. Spec (with LC5e resolution) is clear enough.
b) No. Specifically note that i*ing 1.1 docs is not supported.
c) Yes. Change spec to define that this is possible, though
how to turn a WSDL 1.1 doc into WSDL 2.0 components is not
defined.
[.1] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/4/lc-issues/#LC74
[.2] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/4/lc-issues/#LC5e
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18. Issue LC75w: WSDL 2.0 LC Comments (w) [.1]
- Relax requirement that include href must be dereferencable.
[.1] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/4/lc-issues/#LC75w
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19. Other issues if time allows (ha!)
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