- From: Jonathan Marsh <jmarsh@microsoft.com>
- Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2005 10:01:47 -0800
- To: <www-ws-desc@w3.org>
0. Dial in information (members only) [.1]: See the public WG page [.2] for pointers to current documents and other information, and the private page [.3] for administrative matters. If you have additions to the agenda, please email them to the WG list before the start of the telcon. [.1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-ws-desc/2005Mar/0005.html [.2] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/ [.3] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/admin -------------------------------------------------------------------- Agenda 1. Welcome new member: Kendall Clark, MIND Lab Assign scribe. Lucky minute taker for this week is one of: Prasad Yendluri, Youenn Fablet, Kevin Liu, Umit Yalcinalp, Paul Downey, Dale Moberg, Tom Jordahl, Jean-Jacques Moreau, Tony Rogers, Rebecca Bergersen, Hugo Haas -------------------------------------------------------------------- 2. Approval of minutes: - Feb 24 telcon [.1] - Mar 3-4 FTF (.2, .3) and summary (.4) [.1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2005Feb/att-0070/20050224-ws-desc-minutes.html [.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2005Mar/att-0021/20050303-ws-desc-minutes.html [.3] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2005Mar/att-0021/20050304-ws-desc-minutes.html [.4] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2005Mar/0021.html -------------------------------------------------------------------- 3. Review of Action items [.1]. Editorial actions [.2]. ? 2004-04-01: Marsh will get schema tf going. ? 2004-09-02: Bijan to create stylesheet to generate a table of components and properties. ? 2004-09-16: Editors to move App C to RDF Mapping spec, except the frag-id which will move within media-type reg appendix. ? 2004-09-16: Editors to fix paragraph 6-9 of section 2.1.1 moved into 2.1.2 which talks about the syntax. ? 2004-10-14: Editors to add a statement like: The Style property may constrain both input and output, however a particular style may constrain in only one direction. In Section 2.4.1.1 of Part 1. ? 2004-11-09: DaveO to work on text for option 3 (redefining conformance in terms of building the component model) (LC5f) ? 2004-11-09: DaveO will recast the @compatibleWith proposal using an extension namespace. (LC54) DONE [.7] 2004-11-10: Sanjiva to write the rationale for rejecting LC75a ? 2004-11-10: Glen will post an e-mail describing the compromise proposal on formal objections. ? 2004-11-10: Editor remove ambiguity if it exists ? 2004-11-10: Sanjiva will write up this proposal and email it to the list as a response to the objection. ? 2004-11-11: Anish to propose additions to the test suite for the purpose of interoperability testing. RETIRED 2004-11-18: Mini-task force to propose one or two proposals for the group for LC5f. ? 2004-12-03: Glen and Asir to help craft the specific text for the editors (LC18). MOVED 2004-12-03: Glen to send example on feature stuff for primer DONE [.3] 2005-01-06: MTD Editors to add note saying content-type is not sufficient, information to be provided via other mechanism, for example xsi:type" DONE [.3] 2005-01-06: MTD editors implement proposal 2 for issue 260. ? 2005-01-06: Umit? to respond to Larry, "not dynamic, other solutions equally bad, not recommendation track, if problems happy to consider those" DONE [.3] 2005-01-13: Editors of media type doc to implement issue 261 resolution DONE [.3] 2005-01-13: Editors of media type doc to implement issue 262 resolution DONE [.3] 2005-01-13: Editors of media type doc to implement 262 and 273 ? 2005-01-13: Part 1 Editors to incorporate the text at 2004Dec/0022.html. MOVED 2005-01-13: Editors of media type doc to resolve 275 editorially ? 2005-01-19: Part 1 Editors to call out the difference between WSDL 1.1 and 2.0 in respect to single interface per service, and indicate alternatives ? 2005-01-19: Part 1 Editors to rewrite ONMR as Best practice. DONE [.4] 2005-01-20: Asir to think about mU and possibly propose some clarification text ? 2005-01-20: Arthur to come up with primer text to show fault reuse and fault code. DONE [.4] 2005-02-03: Asir to work with primer eds on SOAP 1.1 example. ? 2005-02-03: Part 1 editors to incorporate text from Jan/0026 and Feb/0006. DONE [.6] 2005-02-17: Asir to review table on how import and include actually work (added by JJM) DONE [.5] 2005-02-17: Umit and Anish to complete editorial work on media type description before ftf ? 2005-02-17: Jacekk to help Bijan advance the RDF mapping work DONE [.8] 2005-03-03: Jonathan to formalize the CR criteria bag and drop "testing type system extensibility" into it ? 2005-03-03: Jonathan will ask the WG what is the publication plan for the type system note around 3/17. ? 2005-03-03: Asir to double check the subissues of 76d to see if they should be raised as issues and to do so. ? 2005-03-04: Umit to add a warning along the lines of: "The intent of the expectedMediaType attribute is to allow WSDL authors to indicate the range of media types that are acceptable for the binary data for which it is defined for, hence it serves as an design time indicator for possible contentType values that are expected. Therefore, authors are recommended to use wild cards with care, and recommended to indicate the list of media types if the set is limited." DONE [.3] 2005-03-04: Media type editors to rename xmlmime: to xmime ? 2005-03-04: Editors to merge parts 2 and 3, move the rpc style from part 1 into it and name the result "Adjuncts". ? 2005-03-04: Roberto to come up with a proposal for LC75g (wildcards in rpc style) [.1] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/#actions [.2] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/4/lc-issues/actions.html [.3] http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/2002/ws/desc/media-types/xml-media-types.html [.4] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-ws-desc/2005Feb/0033.html [.5] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2005Mar/0003.html [.6] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2005Feb/0073.html [.7] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2005Feb/0074.html [.8] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/CRCriteria.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- 4. Administrivia a. Upcoming FTF dates: - April 21-22, Mountain View (Microsoft) Registration [.1] Logistics [.2] - May 30 Berlin? [.1] http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/34041/wsdwgf2f0504/ [.2] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/5/Logistics-2005-04-21.html ------------------------------------------------------------------ 5. Primer [.1] - DBooth and Kevin solicit help for Advanced Topics section [.2] - Volunteers for the following sections: + Section 7.2 Features and Properties (Glen) + Section 7.3 Import mechanism and authoring style (Arthur) + Section 7.4 Multiple Logical WSDL Documents Describing the Same Service (David) + Section 7.5 Versioning and Service Equivalency (Paul) + Section 7.6 MTOM Support (Marsh) + Section 7.8 Operation Style and RPC (Umit) + Section 7.11 Service References (Arthur) + Section 7.12 XML Schema Examples (Paul) + Section 7.13 Multiple In-Line Schemas (Arthur) + Section 7.14 The schemaLocation Attribute (Arthur) + Section 7.15 Mapping to RDF and Semantic Web (Bijan Jacek) - Sections marked as "at risk" if no volunteer can be found: + Section 7.7 Security Considerations - Propose closing Issue LC89i: Need Primer [.3] [.1] http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/2002/ws/desc/wsdl20/wsdl20-primer.html [.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2005Feb/0004.html [.3] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/4/lc-issues/issues.html#LC89i ------------------------------------------------------------------ 6. Media Type Description issues [.1] - Issue resolutions have been incorporated [.2] - Review (briefly) and close editorial issues marked "no change" - 256, 257 - 269 (expectedContentTypes) - 275, 276, 277 (xs:base64Binary vs. xmime:base64Binary) - Propose to close accepted editorial issues: - 253, 254, 255, 264, 265, 267, 274 [.1] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/2/06/issues.html#detailList [.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2005Mar/0003.html ------------------------------------------------------------------ 7. Last Call Issues [.1]. Comments list [.2] - In-Multi-Out MEP [.3] [.1] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/4/lc-issues/ [.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-desc-comments/ [.3] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-desc-comments/2005Mar/0000.html ------------------------------------------------------------------ 8. Feature & Property composition issues - Propose to close LC20 [.1] LC27 [.2] - Arthur and Asir reported no further edge cases. [.1] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/4/lc-issues/issues.html#LC20 [.2] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/4/lc-issues/issues.html#LC27 ------------------------------------------------------------------ 9. Component model necessary? Z notation necessary? - We don't have an open issue on the thread [.1]. [.1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2005Mar/0006.html ------------------------------------------------------------------ 10. Component model changes - LC105: Proposal for Simplifications to the Component Model [.2] - Arthur's modification to the LC105 proposal [.3] - Need to decide whether to allow "property" extensions at the top level. - Resolutions so far: + Add constraint that top-level components must be unique. + Add parent property to nested components. [.1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2005Jan/0060.html [.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2005Jan/0056.html [.3] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2005Jan/0066.html ------------------------------------------------------------------ 11. Issue LC75u: Add wsdl:documentation to the component model [.1] [.1] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/4/lc-issues/issues.html#LC75u ------------------------------------------------------------------ 12. Issue LC80: Extension Components are not Described [.1] [.1] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/4/lc-issues/issues.html#LC80 ------------------------------------------------------------------ 13. Issue LC83: The Component Model Does Not Enforce Component Nesting [.1] [.1] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/4/lc-issues/issues.html#LC83 ------------------------------------------------------------------ 14. Issue LC99: Message Reference Component is Underspecified [.1] [.1] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/4/lc-issues/issues.html#LC99 ------------------------------------------------------------------ 15. Issue LC54: WSDL Last Call issue - Awaiting DaveO's further action to cast @compatibleWith as an extension [.1] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/4/lc-issues/#LC54 ------------------------------------------------------------------ 16. Issue LC84b: [.1] - Hugo's draft proposal [.2] [.1] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/4/lc-issues/issues.html#LC84b [.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2005Feb/0035.html ------------------------------------------------------------------ 17. Issue LC74: Idle question [.1] - Can WSDL 2.0 import WSDL 1.0? - Note that the resolution to LC5e [.2] defines WSDL Document as WSDL 2.0 namespace. - Options: a) No. Spec (with LC5e resolution) is clear enough. b) No. Specifically note that i*ing 1.1 docs is not supported. c) Yes. Change spec to define that this is possible, though how to turn a WSDL 1.1 doc into WSDL 2.0 components is not defined. [.1] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/4/lc-issues/#LC74 [.2] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/4/lc-issues/#LC5e ------------------------------------------------------------------ 18. Issue LC75w: WSDL 2.0 LC Comments (w) [.1] - Relax requirement that include href must be dereferencable. [.1] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/4/lc-issues/#LC75w ------------------------------------------------------------------ 19. Other issues if time allows (ha!)
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