- From: Umit Yalcinalp <umit.yalcinalp@oracle.com>
- Date: Thu, 08 May 2003 15:34:06 -0700
- To: umit.yalcinalp@oracle.com, www-ws-desc@w3.org
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Minutes of the Conference Call (May 8th, 2003)
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Present:
Erik Ackerman Lexmark
Mike Ballantyne Electronic Data Systems
Allen Brookes Rogue Wave Software
Roberto Chinnici Sun Microsystems
Dietmar Gaertner Software AG
Martin Gudgin Microsoft
Tom Jordahl Macromedia
Jacek Kopecky Systinet
Philippe Le Hégaret W3C
Steve Lind AT&T
Kevin Canyang Liu SAP
Lily Liu webMethods
Jonathan Marsh Chair (Microsoft)
Jeff Mischkinsky Oracle
Igor Sedukhin Computer Associates
William Vambenepe Hewlett-Packard
Umit Yalcinalp Oracle
Prasad Yendluri webMethods, Inc.
Regrets:
David Booth W3C
Youenn Fablet Canon
Steve Graham Global Grid Forum
Ingo Melzer DaimlerChrysler
Jean-Jacques Moreau Canon
Arthur Ryman IBM
Jeffrey Schlimmer Microsoft
Jerry Thrasher Lexmark
Sanjiva Weerawarana IBM
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Agenda
1. Assign scribe: Umit Yalcinalp
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2: Approval of the revised minutes of the May 1st telcon [.1]
[.1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003May/0028.html
... Approved.
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3. Review of Action items [.1].
PENDING 2003-01-21: Roberto and gudge to create a branch and work up
a binding proposal based on referencing type
systems directly from operation components.
(Umit's example, Sanjiva's example, WSDL 1.1
example, and others.)
PENDING 2003-03-04: Editors to discuss markup for testable assertions
in the spec and come back with a strategy.
PENDING 2003-03-04: Jonathan to recruit a QA contact for the WG.
PENDING 2003-03-04: Jonathan to recruit a test contact for the WG.
PENDING 2003-03-13: Editors will find part 2 issues to dispatch
easily next telcon.
PENDING 2003-03-13: Don will write a proposal for annotating schema
with part information.
PENDING 2003-03-27: Philippe write up a proposal for embedding binary
data types in schema
PENDING 2003-04-10: Sanjiva to rewrite his proposal on bindings.
DONE [.4] 2003-04-17: Sanjiva to take the lead on coordinating the
meeting on bindings the day before the F2F
DONE [.2] 2003-04-24: Jacek to look at OWL and report back to the
working group.
DONE [.3] 2003-05-01: Roberto to write up uniqueness problem in Schema
PENDING 2003-05-01: Marsh to summarize WS Desc interest for XML Schem
subset to XML Schema WG
DONE 2003-05-01: Editors to clarify that recursive interface
inheritance is disallowed.
[.1] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/#actions
[.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003May/0015.html
[.3] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003May/0033.html
[.4] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-ws-desc/2003May/0020.html
... Roberto indicates that the uniquenss constraints are not a problem
for document
fragments contrary to previous belief. [.3]
... Binding discussion participants will convene in the lobby of the
hotel at 7:00pm prior to the f2f meeting on Sunday. [.4]
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4. Administrivia
a. May FTF [.1] - second draft agenda [.2].
[.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003May/0029.html
... Patterns task force progress may be moved earlier in the day to
accomodate David to dial in.
... Joint meeting on Wednesday will address show stoppers for our fall
dates and the meaning of web service.
... Jonathan solicits further changes to the agenda.
... Travelling may be disturbed the evenings on May 12 and May 14th as
well as May 13th, the day of the strike in France. Attendees are
encouraged to watch the mailing list for developments.
c. Sept FTF [.2]
[.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-ws-desc/2003Apr/0049.html
... holiday starting on Friday will cause some attendees problems.
... wg meeting will be tentatively M-W (22-24 September). More on this
at the f2f.
e. OWL last call review [.5] Jacek's review recommends using OWL Lite
[.6]
[.5] http://www.w3.org/TR/owl-features/
[.6] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003May/0015.html
.. Jacek reports that there are three levels in OWL schema extensions:
OWL lite, OWL DL, and OWL full. OWL lite is sufficient for addressing
the mapping problem. Jonathan will communicate the analysis for the Last
Call.
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5. New Issues. Merged issues list [.1].
[.1]
http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/2002/ws/desc/issues/wsd-issues.html
- Proposal for advertising QoS features of a Web service in WSDL [.2]
Status of this "submission"? IP? QoS is out of scope. Relates to
properties and features.
[.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003May/0020.html
... NO IPR issue exists. Two new elements are proposed to be added,
(supports and requires) that may be used to indicate QoS. Phillippe
thinks it is more in the scope of WS-Policy assertions. Jonathan asks
what the wg should do with this document. Umit suggests we may cover it
when we discuss properties and features in the f2f. Jonathan will add it
to the agenda.
- Kevin: Part 1 clarifications [.3]
[.3] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Apr/0166.html
... Kevin reiterates that clarifications are required for the tool
developers to the process WSDL documents. Jonathan indicates the points
raised will be useful for developing the test assertions. The editors
will add the comments as a new issue.
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6. Proposal for restricting a service to a single interface [.1].
- Related issue (?) dynamic discovery of a service [.2].
[.1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Apr/0069.html
[.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003May/0004.html
... Jonathan thinks [.2] is related to item 7. and should be covered in
that scope.
... Discussion deferred to f2f.
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7. R085 Describing endpoint references. [.1]
[.1]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Apr/att-0088/R085-2003-04-22.html
... Jonathan thinks dynamic binding 6.2 may be a large item and would
like to discuss how to define the scope if we were to consider
addressing this. More to be discussed at f2f.
... Discussion deferred to f2f.
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8. Multiple endpoints with the same interface [.1]
[.1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Apr/0052.html
... Discussion deferred to f2f.
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... Meeting adjurned.
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