- From: Jonathan Marsh <jmarsh@microsoft.com>
- Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 14:46:16 -0700
- To: <www-ws-desc@w3.org>
0. Dial in information (members only) [.1]:
See the public WG page [.2] for pointers to current documents and other
information, and the private page [.3] for administrative matters.
If you have additions to the agenda, please email them to the WG list
before the start of the telcon.
[.1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-ws-desc/2003Jun/0035.html
[.2] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/
[.3] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/admin
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Agenda
1. Assign scribe. Lucky minute taker for this week is:
Don Mullen (fallbacks: Adi Sakala, Steve Lind, Sandeep Kumar,
Dale Moberg, Prasad Yendluri, Jacek Kopecky,
Dietmar Gaertner, Jerry Thrasher, Allen Brooks, Glen Daniels)
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2. Approval of minutes:
- June 19 telcon [.1].
[.1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Jun/0066.html
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3. Review of Action items [.1].
? 2003-03-13: Don will write a proposal for annotating schema
with part information.
? 2003-03-27: Philippe write up a proposal for embedding binary
data types in schema
? 2003-05-13: DaveO to send a motivating example for R131.
? 2003-05-13: Jeffsch, Sanjiva, Glen, Umit, JJM to come up with
a proposal to get rid with the message construct,
and add programming hints.
? 2003-05-14: Kevin to contact Sanjiva and try to merge
proposals.
? 2003-06-12: Jacek to synthesize the different approaches
to solving issue 64.
DONE [.2] 2003-06-12: Arthur to summarize his concerns about Umit's
proposal by email.
? 2003-06-19: Roberto to rewrite up an email about the whether
to use "xs:any" or substitution groups, or both,
for our extensibility mechanism.
DONE [.3] 2003-06-19: Igor to write up about pros and cons of the
single service proposal.
DONE [.3] 2003-06-19: Igor to come up with a new diagram.
[.1] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/#actions
[.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Jun/0142.html
[.3] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Jun/0127.html
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4. Administrivia
a. July FTF logistics [.1], registration [.2]
b. 16 May 2003: The Web Services Task Force [.3] of the
Internationalization Working Group has released an updated Working
Draft of Web Services Internationalization Usage Scenarios [.2].
The
document examines how language, culture, and related issues
interact
with Web services architecture and technology.
c. XPath, XQuery, XSLT Last Call document review [.5].
[.1] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/3/05/f2fJulyLogistics.htm
[.2]
http://cgi.w3.org/Register/selectUser.pl?_w3c_meetingName=WSAWG_WSDWG_20
0307
[.3] http://www.w3.org/International/ws/
[.4] http://www.w3.org/TR/2003/WD-ws-i18n-scenarios-20030516/
[.5] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Jun/0082.html
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5. Task Force Status.
a. Properties and Features (dormant)
b. Patterns
c. Attributes
d. QA & Testing
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6. New Issues. Merged issues list [.1].
- Error in diagram (David) [.2]. Jacek's additional (?) problem [.3].
[.1]
http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/2002/ws/desc/issues/wsd-issues.html
[.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Jun/0064.html
[.3] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Jun/0117.html
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7. Substitution groups or <xs:any> extensibility [.1].
Awaiting alternatives from Roberto.
[.1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Jun/0051.html
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8. Single service per interface motivation [.1, .2]
Comments on the pretty pictures [.3]. Simplification of the
simplification proposal [.4].
I perceive some agreement on the conceptual model (as indicated
by the diagram). Perhaps a straw poll on whether we should
develop an alternative syntax/terminology proposal?
[.1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003May/0095.html
[.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003May/0104.html
[.3] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Jun/0023.html
[.4] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Jun/0031.html
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9. R085 Describing endpoint references. [.1]
- General agreement to add such capability to WSDL, but
not agreement on the precise form of the annotations and
where in the WSDL they should reside. Proposal
from Umit [.3], response from Arthur [.4].
- Related issue (?) dynamic discovery of a service [.2].
[.1]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Apr/att-0088/R085-20
03-04-22.html
[.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003May/0004.html
[.3]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Jun/att-0024/umit_pr
oposal.html__charset_ISO-8859-1
[.4] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Jun/0142.html
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10. Issue 64 [.1] Operations an HTTP verbs (Mark Baker) [.2, .3, .4]
[.1] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/2/06/issues.html#x64
[.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003May/0094.html
[.3] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Jan/0103.html
[.4] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Jan/0111.html
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11. Issue 2: SOAPAction has been deprecated, as of SOAP 1.2 [.1].
- Arthur's proposal to unify property URIs and QName URIs. [.2]
Alternatives include using property markup, or a QNamed
attribute.
- Proposal for advertising QoS features of a Web service in WSDL [.3].
[.1] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/2/06/issues.html#x2
[.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003May/0047.html
[.3] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003May/0020.html
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12. Binding enhancements
Sanjiva proposes [.1] to:
1) Drop @interface from binding, since now in service.
2) Allow inlining interface-wide binding within a port and
making binding optional.
3) Define default binding (SOAP doc/lit).
4) Dealing with operation specific SOAPActions.
Kevin proposes to [.2]:
1) Allow reuse of parts of bindings through a BindingDetails
element and corresponding references.
Waiting for Kevin and Sanjiva to consolidate the proposals.
[.1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003May/0046.html
[.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Jan/0068.html
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13. Removing message.
Investigating idea to cleanly separate interop at the message
format level from interop at the programming model level. Awaiting
proposal from Jeffsch et. al. to get rid with the message
construct, and add programming hints.
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14. Moving MIME Type Information to the Interface [.1]
Awaiting proposal from Philippe.
[.1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003Mar/0028.html
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15. Using RDF in WSDL [.1].
Dependent upon RDF mapping first draft.
[.1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2003May/0076.html
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