- From: Tom Jordahl <tomj@macromedia.com>
- Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2002 12:57:21 -0400
- To: "'www-ws-desc@w3.org'" <www-ws-desc@w3.org>
Here are the minutes from today's conference call:
Web Services Description Working Group Conference Call
April 18, 2002
Agenda
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1. Attendance
2. Approval of minutes
3. New minutes process review
4. Review of Action items.
5. Coordination with WS Arch WG
6. Requirements doc.
7. WG approval to publish requirements and usage scenarios documents.
8. Tracking new issues
9. Issues discussion.
Attendance
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Present:
*Mike Ballantyne Electronic Data Systems
David Booth W3C
Allen Brookes Rogue Wave Software
Roberto Chinnici Sun Microsystems
Glen Daniels Macromedia
Youenn Fablet Canon
Dietmar Gaertner Software AG
Mario Jeckle DaimlerChrysler Research and Technology
Tom Jordahl Macromedia
Jacek Kopecky Systinet
*Sandeep Kumar Cisco Systems
Philippe Le Hégaret W3C
Steve Lind AT&T
*Kevin Canyang Liu SAP
Pallavi Malu Intel
Jonathan Marsh Microsoft Corporation
*Mike McHugh W. W. Grainger
*Don Mullen Tibco
Waqar Sadiq Electronic Data Systems
Adi Sakala IONA Technologies
Jeffrey Schlimmer Microsoft Corporation
Igor Sedukhin Computer Associates
Sandra Swearingen U.S. Department of Defense, U.S. Air Force
*William Stumbo Xerox
Jerry Thrasher Lexmark
Sanjiva Weerawarana IBM Corporation
Joyce Yang Oracle
Prasad Yendluri webMethods, Inc.
* lost due to technical difficulties.
Regrets:
Michael Champion Software AG
Laurent De Teneuille L'Echangeur
Tim Finin University of Maryland
Dan Kulp IONA
Jeff Mischkinsky Oracle Corporation
Jean-Jacques Moreau Canon
Jochen Ruetschlin DaimlerChrysler Research and Technology
Arthur Ryman IBM
Krishna Sankar Cisco Systems
Dave Solo Citigroup
William Vambenepe Hewlett-Packard Company
Don Wright Lexmark
Absent:
Keith Ballinger Microsoft Corporation
Mike Davoren W. W. Grainger
Michael Mealling Verisign
Dale Moberg Cyclone Commerce
Johan Pauhlsson L'Echangeur
Stefano Pugliani Sun
Radhika Roy AT&T
Daniel Schutzer Citigroup
Approval of minutes
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Last conference call:
http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/2/04/04-minutes.html
Face-2Face:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-ws-desc/2002Apr/0050.html
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-ws-desc/2002Apr/0052.html
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-ws-desc/2002Apr/0060.html
April 4th - Approved
F2F minutes - Approved
Problems with Verizon switch is preventing many from calling in
New minutes process
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Details at:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-ws-desc/2002Apr/0062.html
Highlights:
- Publish agenda's to public list
- Publish minutes to public list, omitting 'sensitive' info.
- Dialing details will go to admin list.
- Corrections are sent to the public list.
TomJ: How does the attendance list get to the scribe?
Jonathan will send in Email to the scribe.
Call adjourned to another conference call bridge.
Action Items
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DONE 2002.02.14 Jonathan: Map Face-to-Face meetings 6 months in advance.
- Dates and places on web page http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/2/04/f2fJuneLogistics.html
IN PROGRESS 2002.04.04 Editors to get CVS requests to Philippe.
KEITH ABSENT 2002.03.07 Keith. Discuss open content model design.
DONE 2002.03.21 Editors (Jeff/Sanjiva). Do presentations of top 5 broken
items in WSDL 1.1 at the F2F.
DONE 2002.04.04 Everyone to read the use cases and send e-mail raising
issue for the FTF.
DONE? 2002.04.04 Jeffrey to rephrase R083
IN PROGRESS 2002.04.10 Sanjiva - add inconsistent use of port and endpoint to issues
list Arthur - work on text for a requirement to define
equivalence of wsdl document
DONE (by Jonathan) 2002.04.10 Jeffrey Schlimmer to remove expected version annotations.
PENDING 2002.04.11 Keith B. will write up descriptions for issues discussed in
presentations and add to issue lists if not there yet. due
date: next conference call.
DONE 2002.04.11 Sanjiva W. will post descriptions for issues discussed in
presentations and add to issue lists if not there yet. due date:
next conference call
PENDING 2002.04.11 Jeff Schlimmer Add UPNP example to use cases.
DONE 2002.04.12 David Booth ask Eric for clarification and will cc RDF interest
group.
DONE 2002.04.12 Jeffery, Sandeep, Waqar - have drafts ready by next telcon on
Thursday 4/18.
NEW ACTION - 2002.04.18 - Waqar will identify use cases to remove.
NEW ACTION - 2002.04.18 - Waqar will post by next Tuesday a draft.
Publish if no objections at the next telecon.
DONE 2002.04.12 JM will pursue use case task force with coordination group.
Coordination with WS Arch WG
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Jonathan:
- Arch group has proposed they own the Glossary and Usage Scenarios docs.
- Description will not create their own, just comment on theirs.
Waqar: concern that we might not like the docs we have to use.
Jonathan: doesn't see any reason why our feedback would be ignored
Glen: our usage may be more detailed than theirs
Jonathan: Use cases would be more detailed than usage scenarios and slightly different
TomJ: Let 'em have it, and lets get on to WSDL
Requirements doc
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Latest doc:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2002Apr/att-0104/01-ws-desc-reqs-20020417.html
Jonathan moved rejects to the bottom. Still editorial work to be done
NEW ACTION 2002.04.18 Jeffery will clean up R001
Proposed new wording for R001 from Dave Booth:
[Accepted, Must, Charter] The language developed by the WG must permit any programming model,
transport or protocol for communication between peers. (Last revised 21 Feb 2002.)
New requirement from Mark Baker:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2002Apr/0075.html
Jonathan wants to add as a draft requirement. No objections
WG approval to publish requirements and usage scenarios documents
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NEW ACTION: 2002.04.18 Jeffery will clean up requirements document,
and we will have a publishable draft by next Tuesday,
Publication process will start after conference call Thursday.
Discussion about how the review process will work.
NEW ACTION 2002.04.18 Jonathan, Philippe Investigate setting up new mailing list for review comments.
Tracking new issues
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NEW ACTION 2002.04.18 Sanjiva Add 5 new issues raised by Prasad in Email to the issues list.
NEW ACTION 2002.04.18 Waqar Add new use case raised on the mailing list to use cases.
Issues discussion
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Issue: remove solicit-response and output-only operations?
Thread starts at http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2002Apr/0059.html
Prasad: Wants to keep them.
JacekK: Address on port don't make sense for these operations
Various arguments that something *like* solicit-response should be kept in the spec
JeffS: It's not obvious to me that we need to keep solicit-response in the spec.
NEW ACTION 2002.04.18 Prasad Write up question for XLANG and/or WSFL groups whether
they need solicit-response.
NEW ACTION 2002.04.18 Jonathan Solicit input from XLANG and/or WSFL groups whether
they need solicit-response.
Issue: support cross references within a WSDL file using ncnames?
Thread starts at http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2002Apr/0061.html
Tabled till next time due to time limitations.
Summary of New Action Items
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NEW ACTION 2002.04.18 Waqar will identify use cases to remove.
NEW ACTION 2002.04.18 Waqar will post by next Tuesday a draft.
Publish if no objections at the next telecon.
NEW ACTION 2002.04.18 Jeffery will clean up R001
NEW ACTION 2002.04.18 Jonathan, Philippe Investigate setting up new mailing list for review comments.
NEW ACTION 2002.04.18 Sanjiva Add 5 new issues raised by Prasad in to the issues list.
NEW ACTION 2002.04.18 Waqar Add new use case raised on the mailing list
NEW ACTION 2002.04.18 Prasad Write up question for XLANG and/or WSFL groups whether
they need solicit-response.
NEW ACTION 2002.04.18 Jonathan Solicit input from XLANG and/or WSFL groups whether
they need solicit-response.
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