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RE: Crossreferencing the spec list with Apache's

From: Ugo Corda <UCorda@SeeBeyond.com>
Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2004 19:00:50 -0800
Message-ID: <EDDE2977F3D216428E903370E3EBDDC903958972@MAIL01.stc.com>
To: "Michael Champion" <mc@xegesis.org>, <www-ws-arch@w3.org>

These messages seem to imply that our group was not aware of the Apache
list. In fact, we already discussed it last October (see the "Apache"
thread in the October archive). I actually modified the Apache list at
that time, based on that same discussion.


> -----Original Message-----
> From: www-ws-arch-request@w3.org 
> [mailto:www-ws-arch-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of Michael Champion
> Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2004 10:54 AM
> To: 'www-ws-arch@w3.org '
> Subject: Re: Crossreferencing the spec list with Apache's
> On Feb 1, 2004, at 1:31 PM, Cutler, Roger (RogerCutler) wrote:
> >
> >
> > Having said that, I think I might support putting a link to 
> this list
> > in
> > the Appendix, with some text like, "Another list of Web services
> > specifications may be found at ...".  I say, however, "think".  It 
> > makes
> > me nervous that this seems to be getting perilously close 
> to "adding or
> > modifying content", which I think is a serious no-no at 
> this point.  
> > Are
> > we endorsing this list?
> Not any more than we're endorsing yours.  As I recall, there 
> is quite a 
> disclaimer about your list in Appendix A.  I'm just 
> suggesting that we 
> make that plural and point to the Apache one as well, because 
> it *is* a 
> living document.  Without any endorsement, of course.
> >
> >
> > Actually, now that I have thought more about it, I regret 
> to say that 
> > I think putting in such a link is on the wrong side of the 
> line, and 
> > that drawing and maintaining that line is really important.
> IMHO there's no line,  there's no working group.  And no chair, and I 
> have no more say in this than anyone on this list :-)   I 
> would suggest 
> that David and Hugo, using their de facto authority as publishers of 
> the document, put a link to the Apache list as a service to 
> our readers 
> because we definitely would have done so last Wednesday had we been 
> aware of the Apache list.  They can put as many disclaimers as they 
> want.
> I guess an alternative would be for those of us who wish to have some 
> continuing role in organizing our collective thoughts about the 
> architectural implications of WS and SOA setup a FAQ list or 
> a Wiki or 
> something.
> 1. Q: "I'm confused about all the %*&^%* "web services" specs.  Is 
> there a complete list somewhere?"
>      A: The best you'll find is 
> http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi?WebServicesSpecif
(But it changes frequently, you might want to subscribe to 
http://www.dehora.net/rss/wsasf-rss10.xml). Use this and all other such 
lists with extreme caution; they contain a mixture of real de facto 
standards, protostandards that are being actively developed, 
interesting  proposals that are getting serious consideration, and pure 
marketing fluff.
Received on Sunday, 1 February 2004 22:01:09 UTC

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