- From: Champion, Mike <Mike.Champion@SoftwareAG-USA.com>
- Date: Fri, 30 May 2003 09:34:03 -0400
- To: www-ws-arch@w3.org
[This is more of my "make sense out of the minutes from Rennes" action item. There was a rather difficult discussion of "conformance" as we reviewed section 2.1 on Wednesday ... this tries to propose a way forward that takes into account the various comments.] This text is currently in section 2.1 but we discussed in Rennes whether it should be moved to the FUNDAMENTAL_CONCEPTS section or the INTRODUCTION. What follows is a proposed re-wording based on what I understood to be the very rough consensus in Rennes. (I don't say that wearing my co-chair "identify consensus" hat but my WG member "propose a strawman and see who flames it" hat). So, here's some proposed text, flame away, and please offer suggested improvements. ---------------------------------------------------------------- WSA_CONFORMANCE WSA "Conformance" is a difficult and controversial subject, for two basic reasons: - As a "reference architecture" it makes assertions about specifications rather than about software. It is not meaningful to say that a particular product conforms with the W3C WSA, only that it implements a specification that is consistent with the WSA. - As the product of a consensus-driven industry consortium, it tries to impose order on a somewhat chaotic reality rather than being a "top down" design for how this should all work if it were just being invented. [1] Nevertheless, the objective is to make testable normative assertions about the desireable properties of Web services-related specifications and standards. For example, the architecture asserts that [2] a Web service interface HAS-A formal description in an language that is at least as rich as the WSDL conceptual model. [I'm thinking of endpoints, interfaces, bindings, operations]. That implies that Web service specifications SHOULD document their interfaces in WSDL or a language that can be mapped into WSDL ... and it implies that future versions of WSDL should be conceptually rich enough to describe the range of Web services interfaces allowed in the WSA. Conversely, the architecture notes that a message is a unit of interaction between software agents. This means that the architecture is not concerned about messages between objects that are within an implementation of a Web service. We also state that messages have a message sender; any specification realizing this architecture that does not permit a message to be associated with its sender is not in conformance with the architecture. Unlike language specifications, or protocol specifications, conformance to an architecture is necessarily a somewhat imprecise art. However, the presence of a concept [in the CONCEPTS AND RELATIONSHIPS section] is a normative statement [3] that, in any specification claiming to conform to the architecture, then it SHOULD be possible to map the relevant WSA concepts onto features in the specification. [4] Furthermore, if a relationship is identified in [the CONCEPTS AND FEATURES section], then there should be corresponding relationships implied by conformant specifications. The WSA is not a foundation on which real interoperability can be defined, but without agreement on the core concepts and relationships, it is unlikely that different Web services "stacks" will align in a way that fosters interoperability. For example, the WSA defines [5] the concept of "reliable messaging". There are multiple technologies by which reliable messaging can be implemented, and design techniques that allow reliable applications to be built without a reliable messaging infrastructure. It is unrealistic to expect the WSA or W3C to define the "one true reliable messaging specificiation" that will ensure universal interoperability, but it is a realistic goal to make the normative assertion that the reliable messaging "box" be as loosely coupled as possible from other "boxes" in an actual implementation architecture. [6] -------------------------------------------------------------------- [1] Walden took issue with me privately on this sentiment. It is not clearly stated in our charter or requirements that we are trying to impose an ordering scheme on existing reality and that our goal is to reflect consensus rathe than vision, but that seems to be the practical reality we are in. Does anyone think that we can legitimately and realistically aspire to be more visionary? Individually we could probably all come up with a cleaner and clearer vision than we can collectively, but who pay attention? [2] Obviously I'm guessing about what we will eventually agree to here. [3] Is that too strong? I know there was a lot of discomfort about the word "normative" in Rennes ... [4] Sorry, words don't come to describe this well ... basically, if a spec is relevant to some "area" of the WSA "space", then it SHOULD be possible to map its features from the WSA concepts in that space. [5] Again I'm anticipating a future draft ... [6] I'm struggling to say "we want to help avoid another COM vs CORBA war" without saying that bluntly :-) Obviously "boxes" is not a good term here.
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