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RE: Normative constraints on the WSA

From: Cutler, Roger (RogerCutler) <RogerCutler@chevrontexaco.com>
Date: Sat, 17 May 2003 03:39:46 -0500
Message-ID: <7FCB5A9F010AAE419A79A54B44F3718E01817E42@bocnte2k3.boc.chevrontexaco.net>
To: "Mark Baker" <distobj@acm.org>, "Champion, Mike" <Mike.Champion@SoftwareAG-USA.com>
cc: www-ws-arch@w3.org

I don't think that anything in the architecture of the Web, at least as
I see it articulated by the TAG or the charter of the WSAWG, says or
implies that the Web must remain the same forever.  As I've stated it,
this may seem like a tautology or perhaps as a personally intended slur
(not intended this way at all), but I'm beginning to think that in
essence this, or something like it, is a point of real difference of
opinion and approach.

Approach 1 - The Web has been successful and must be preserved.
Deviations are dangerous.

Approach 2 - The Web has been successful and should be used as a
springboard to different things.  Deviations are desirable.

That's probably overstated ...

-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Baker [mailto:distobj@acm.org] 
Sent: Saturday, May 17, 2003 12:36 AM
To: Champion, Mike
Cc: 'www-ws-arch@w3.org '
Subject: Normative constraints on the WSA

On Fri, May 16, 2003 at 07:07:44AM -0600, Champion, Mike wrote:
> Oh, I see the ambiguity in my response.

Ah, gotcha.  Thanks.

> I invite people read the soon-to-be published WSA working draft and 
> raise any Webarch issues one thinks are in it, but we do NOT invite 
> issues concerning WSA's non-conformance with non-normative constraints

> on it.

Well, as I know I've said before, I consider the only authority on Web
architecture to be the Web itself.  So if I can point at some constraint
which is widely followed on the Web today, and demonstrate that Web
services don't follow it, then that seems to me to be something that
goes against the architecture, and therefore against the charter and
requirements of the WG.

Anyhow, IMO, this is all going to end up on the lap of the Director at
some point no matter which path we take, so there's probably little use
in discussing the "what" or "how".  I'm interested in the "when". 8-)
Are you planning to request review of the next revision of the arch doc
by the TAG?

Mark Baker.   Ottawa, Ontario, CANADA.        http://www.markbaker.ca
Web architecture consulting, technical reports, evaluation & analysis
  Actively seeking contract work or employment
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