- From: Katia Sycara <katia@cs.cmu.edu>
- Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2002 10:45:47 -0400
- To: "Dave Hollander" <dmh@contivo.com>, <www-ws-arch@w3.org>
+1 -----Original Message----- From: www-ws-arch-request@w3.org [mailto:www-ws-arch-request@w3.org]On Behalf Of Dave Hollander Sent: Friday, September 27, 2002 10:56 AM To: www-ws-arch@w3.org Subject: RE: Label for Top Node of "triangle diagram" Registries have been defined in great detail by eco, ebxml and a host of other technologies (eg. dns). If we use the term, we will have to be careful to define it as a logical abstraction that does not necessarily carry all of the specialized semantics from other technologies. One semantic I will always have a hard time removing from registry is that there is a persistent data store tightly coupled with it. I believe that Heather's point about not likeing "repository" is becuase of the presumption of storage--and I feel the same about registry. The roles, as I understand them, are: 1) a "place" to advertise a service's availability 2) an agency that brokers services' descriptions 3) a "place" to discover what services are availabile Are these right? If so, my preferences: 1) Advertising and Discovery Services 2) Services Description and Discovery 3) Services Registries Dave -----Original Message----- From: Munter, Joel D [mailto:joel.d.munter@intel.com] Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2002 9:36 PM To: 'Heather Kreger'; www-ws-arch@w3.org; David Orchard Subject: RE: Label for Top Node of "triangle diagram" i prefer "web services registries" --- joel -----Original Message----- From: Heather Kreger [mailto:kreger@us.ibm.com] Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2002 4:48 PM To: www-ws-arch@w3.org; David Orchard Subject: Re: Label for Top Node of "triangle diagram" Hey, I think Registry or Registries is fine (in a minority I suppose). I just LOVE " Web Service Registries" - qualified, plural and in a cloud therefore distributed. 'Registry agencies' is my third place vote To me, 'Discovery Agency' is biased for 'finding' things and doesn't represent interesting publication tecnologies (like a crawling registry...). Some other terms I've seen but don't love: Repository (implies stores local copy rather than pointer to a copy) Thats why in IBM we settled on 'Registry' .. it was a 'role' name like requester and provider and not biased towards either of their uses of it. Heather Kreger Web Services Lead Architect STSM, SWG Emerging Technology kreger@us.ibm.com 919-543-3211 (t/l 441) cell:919-496-9572 "David Orchard" <dorchard@bea.com>@w3.org on 09/26/2002 05:26:26 PM Sent by: www-ws-arch-request@w3.org To: <www-ws-arch@w3.org> cc: Subject: Label for Top Node of "triangle diagram" This kicks off discussions about what to call the top node in our triangle diagram. Some of the terms bandied about (and I list these to support brainstorming/creative works): Registry Registry agency Discovery Mechanism Publish/Discover Advertiser Search Engine Metadata store I looked up in roget's some various synonyms for registry, and I found catalog(ue for those that write proper english:-), roster, list, roll. I looked at discovery and found ascertainment, find, finding, strike. BTW, I despise the term metadata in this context. The way I see it, we can go one of 4 paths: 1) Label it by the function it supports - publish/discover is an example 2) Label it by a term that represent the function it supports - registry is an example. 3) Same as #2, except we come up with a whole new term. This has precedent - RoyF came up with Representations because the trm document wasn't quite right. 4) Create some modified term based on the previous, like "web service registry" I observe that lots of companies and people spent time figuring out these and other terms. The chance of us recreating something useful in a timely manner that is different with what's gone on seems unlikely to me. I gather that people have heartburn over the term "registry" because it implies a solution like UDDI. Is there any prefix that might suffice? My personal preference is registry with a prefix like Web Service. Anyways, let's discuss. And I'll add in people's suggestions and resend the summaries at various points. I'd prefer to hear what people strongly like and strongly dislike, so we can get a feel for any consensus, or even majority of the group. Cheers, Dave
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