- From: Jim Hendler <hendler@cs.umd.edu>
- Date: Sun, 29 Sep 2002 20:49:21 -0400
- To: webont <www-webont-wg@w3.org>
WOWGers, the following mail is an ammended version of a message that was sent to the Chairs working group by Joseph Reagle. He has kindly consented to let me forward it -- when we go forward to CR and beyond, the handling of comments becomes very important, and the advice below should be very helpful - The last paragraph in particular is helpful advice -JH >From: Joseph Reagle <reagle@w3.org> > >Hi Jim, I'm comfortable with you forwarding the following tweaked version to >your WG (I removed the few specific mentions I had included): > >_____ > > > I've removed the issue number and the name from the following email > because I want to draw attention to the bureaucrat-ness of it <grin/>, > not the actual subject or person. > > I know the WGs are trying to do a good job in making sure everyone's > issues are addressed. Because of past mistakes, the trend has been for > us to be more formal in the responses. And I find this process can get > quite frustrating at times. For example, I lost a lot of context in the > lag between the time my comment was sent and the time I got a response > in [two recent comments]. If I'm referred to some table with > lots of unique conventions and links, trying to understand what > happened to the issue, or remembering what it was, is quite difficult! > > Or, as below, after a period I'm told the WG made some determination and > will take no action. I ask, "did I even make myself clear? Did they > understand the issue or am I confused?" The response is akin to, "I'm > only responding, since there was no action, the editors' did nothing, > if this is not satisfactory we can reraise the issue at our next FTF 2 > months from now." I end up feeling like a person trapped in a automatic > response system "please push the '5' key", desperately wishing to speak > to a real person. I'd rather be told I'm an idiot and don't understand, > or we clearly disagree -- if this is the case -- than the run-around. > > Again, I'm not trying to pick on any particular group or individual. > This is a problem we all face in trying to be fair and complete with > respect to comments. However, I would encourage WGs to be willing to > engage the person relatively soon after the comment is made, for the > responders to be able to say, "I'm not speaking for the whole WG, but I > think the substantive bit here is that you're misunderstanding X." > Presently, we're moving towards process churn, formal run-arounds, and > circular loops of deferal instead of substantive discussion. -- Professor James Hendler hendler@cs.umd.edu Director, Semantic Web and Agent Technologies 301-405-2696 Maryland Information and Network Dynamics Lab. 301-405-6707 (Fax) Univ of Maryland, College Park, MD 20742 240-731-3822 (Cell) http://www.cs.umd.edu/users/hendler
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