- From: Peter F. Patel-Schneider <pfps@research.bell-labs.com>
- Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2002 22:58:01 -0400
- To: hendler@cs.umd.edu
- Cc: www-webont-wg@w3.org
From: Jim Hendler <hendler@cs.umd.edu> Subject: Re: LANG: new version of abstract syntax/translation document Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2002 22:41:01 -0400 > At 5:33 PM -0400 7/17/02, Peter F. Patel-Schneider wrote: > >From: Dan Connolly <connolly@w3.org> > >Subject: Re: LANG: new version of abstract syntax/translation document > >Date: 17 Jul 2002 14:41:20 -0500 > > > >> On Sun, 2002-07-07 at 05:45, Peter F. Patel-Schneider wrote: > >> > Here is a new version of the document. > >> > >>http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-webont-wg/2002Jul/att-0031/01-specification.html > > > >[...] > > > >> == 1.2. Stances Taken on OWL Issues > >> > >> "# The document does not include ordered property values, > >> assuming that issue 2.6 will be resolved against including > >> ordered property values in OWL." > >> > >> Hmmm... I'm pretty fond of the first/rest construct for > >> ordered values. > > > >This produces an ordered list, which is, I believe, different from ordered > >property values. I believe that ordered property values are something > >like is possible in XML, with its document ordering. > > actually, I have no idea what the difference between 2.5 (closed > lists) and 2.6 (ordered values) actually is - I had planned to > propose to have 2.6 declared as subsumed by 2.5 -- that is, doesn't > the new rdf solution with respect to list, first, rest, and nil give > us this? Peter says that he believes ordered property value is > different from ordered lists -- Peter, can you elaborate this? > Should we keep these as separate issues? > thanks My view is that issue 2.5 is handled by the first/rest/nil construction. We should thus declare success and close it. Issue 2.6 is, in my view, very different. Suppose that you have several property values, as in: foo bar x1 . foo bar x2 . RDF does not have any way of inducing an order on these two value. XML does, namely document order. To address issue 2.6 OWL would have to have a way of providing a total, or partial, over the values of a property for a particular object. Of course, I may be completely misreading both 2.5 and 2.6. peter
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