- From: Wallmer, Martin <Martin.Wallmer@softwareag.com>
- Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 11:24:57 +0100
- To: "'Julian Reschke'" <julian.reschke@gmx.de>, www-webdav-dasl@w3.org
Hi, just to clarify: 1. If a resource in scope has versions, the server SHOULD take care of versions as well. 2. If the client specifies <d:include-versions />, the server MUST take care of versions or MUST reject the request. 3. If the user does not want to get versions, he must specify <not xmlns="DAV:"><is-defined><version-name /></is-defined></not> ... Is my understanding correct? However, a defined "switch" (include - exclude) could be a good hint for the server in terms of performance, so I'd prefer a <d:exclude-versions/> as well. Alternatively the server should only include the versions, if <d:include-versions /> is specified. Does this make sense? Regards, Martin -----Original Message----- From: Julian Reschke [mailto:julian.reschke@gmx.de] Sent: Mittwoch, 5. Februar 2003 18:50 To: www-webdav-dasl@w3.org Subject: RE: Relationship between scopes and version histories Very good point, Elias. Right now, a client can explicitly de-select versions by specifying something like <not xmlns="DAV:"><is-defined><version-name /></is-defined></not> Similarily, version histories can be excluded using <not xmlns="DAV:"><is-defined><version-set /></is-defined></not> Would that suffice? In general, I'd prefer not to change the semantics of the scope itself. If a version happens to be in the namespace scope, the search should apply to it as well... Julian -- <green/>bytes GmbH -- http://www.greenbytes.de -- tel:+492512807760 > -----Original Message----- > From: www-webdav-dasl-request@w3.org > [mailto:www-webdav-dasl-request@w3.org]On Behalf Of Elias Sinderson > Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 6:39 PM > To: www-webdav-dasl@w3.org > Subject: Re: Relationship between scopes and version histories > > > > Julian Reschke wrote: > > >A relatively frequent use case for servers that both support > versioning and > >DASL seems to have searches that include all versions of the resources in > >scope. In general, the version URIs may not be in the scope of the query. > > > Ahh, I'd not thought of this use case, thanks for recognizing this and > pointing it out. > > >Therefore, I'd like to extend the DAV:scope to specify inclusion of > >versions. This would be an optional extension -- however, a > server that does > >not support his feature should reject the request (so that the > client would > >know that the request could not be satisfied). > > > >Example: > > > > <d:from xmlns:d="DAV:"> > > <d:scope> > > <d:href>/container1/</d:href> > > <d:depth>infinity</d:depth> > > <d:include-versions /> > > </d:scope> > > </d:from> > > > This extension seems reasonable to me. One question I have is whether > some servers implementation of versioning would result in the version > URIs being in the scope of the search unintentionally? If so, then it > may also be reasonable to add <d:exclude-versions/> as well. I'd be a > little miffed if my seemingly well-formed query returned matches on all > the version histories of a resource and I was unable to turn it > off easily. > > Without knowledge of how a given server implements versioning, it will > be difficult for a client to know how to modify a query such that it > excludes previous versions of resources. Further, since different > servers will implement versioning differently, clients may end up using > special cases for different servers - something to be avoided. An > alternate approach to defining <d:exclude-versions/> would be to specify > that in the absence of <d:include-versions/>, the default behavior MUST > exclude previous versions of resources from the scope of a query. > > > Elias >
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