- From: olivier Thereaux <ot@w3.org>
- Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2007 06:58:21 +0900
- To: Shane McCarron <shane@aptest.com>
- Cc: XHTML WG <public-xhtml2@w3.org>, W3C Validator Community <www-validator@w3.org>
Hi Shane, all [re-sending without the attachment - didn't make it through to the lists because of size] On 11 oct. 07, at 11:18, Shane McCarron wrote: > Independent of this issue.... it is certainly reasonable to have the > validator use locally cached versions of things referenced by > documents being validated. Yes, I agree. For better or worse though, the sgml parser used by the validator is using a catalogue solution and I suspect adding a caching capability to it would be a little hard. >> Are these DTDs changing so often that it would be a burden for the >> XHTML WG to drop a mail to www-validator saying "the DTD for foo >> has been updated, please update your catalogs"? Remember, readers >> on this list include not just developers for the W3C's validator, >> but pretty much all of them. > It is surely not a burden. We manage a great number of DTDs, and > many of those are under active development right now. I am not sure > how often you can handle updates, nor when it would be appropriate > to update something as public as the validator. As a matter of fact, I think we will have a small update of the validator soon: just a couple of bug fixes that are due - overdue - for inclusion in the stable distribution. I was wondering if that would be a good time to update the sgml-lib used by and distributed with the markup validator to use the latest version of dtd and modules de xhtml modularization, 1.1, basic and print? I attach a bulky diff between the version of DTDs in http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/DTD/ and the ones currently in the validator. Could we work together on this update? >> That said, if a DTD is changing a lot for a period of time, we >> could remove it temporarily, upon your request, from the >> validator's catalog, but that should not be systematic. > I would be happy to work with you on developing a process that makes > sense for all groups; surely this cannot be unique to XHTML. I think XHTML is pretty much the only technology still changing/ developing its DTDs. But indeed, a process to handle the evolution of schemas and their inclusion in our tools would be extremely useful for now and for the future. Our current process,rather crude, implies that a spec goes to CR, PR, REC and then stays there - not the reality any more. The process was also made for a time when validation was provided after technologies went to REC, which we now want to change to allow validation since the early days - for early adoption. The way I have found to handle this is to add "awareness" of the document types early on, but only add the schemas to catalogue at a later stage, when they become stable. This, however, has not worked well with XHTML mod and friends since these have been re-worked on since REC. Any help making the process more agile - maybe, as I wrote earlier, simply removing files from the catalogue when they go from stable to "under work" status - would be welcome. -- olivier
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