- From: Martin Duerst <duerst@w3.org>
- Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2003 11:04:42 -0400
- To: Terje Bless <link@pobox.com>, W3C Validator <www-validator@w3.org>
Hello Terje, I think there is a difference between using UTF-8 throughout and using fancy characters which get a bit easier when using Unicode. I think we should do the former now, while the later may easily wait way past 0.7. I do not think that simply marking something as UTF-8 should cause any problems on Netscape 3.x (but it's a long time since I last used that browser). Regards, Martin. At 21:03 03/07/04 +0200, Terje Bless wrote: >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >Hash: SHA1 > >Martin Duerst <duerst@w3.org> wrote: > > >I was quite surprised to see that the main validator page (and probably > >others) are still iso-8859-1 (see e.g. > >http://webtools.mozilla.org/web-sniffer/view.cgi?url=http%3A%2F% > >2Fvalidator. w3.org%2F). This leads to problems when validating IRIs > >and, once we support that, IDNs. > > > >All validator output is UTF-8, and there is no reason to have the input > >be something else. > >Well, that's a good point; but the main reason the pages are still iso-8859-1 >is that older browsers had trouble with UTF-8. This was also the reason for >nuking some "fancy quotes" scattered around the site. > >What I've been thinking is that 0.6.x should keep compatibility with these >browsers -- which is Netscape 3.x, _not_ 4.x, BTW :-) -- and then revisit the >issue for 0.7. Most likely -- unless I'm persuaded otherwise again -- 0.7 will >be all UTF-8 and freely making use of "Unicode" features (such as the >mentioned typographical quote marks). > > >Part of the reason for this is that around 0.7 we need to take a long hard >look at what backwards compatibility we want to invest resources in >supporting; as well as what width of platforms to support. e.g. how old >"standard" linux distros do we want to support, and whether or not we want to >support Win32; in which case we need to actually resolve all the issues with >that platform. Win32 in particular is difficult since we don't have a working >SGML/XML Parser on that platform. Bj旦rn has made quite a bit of progress on >that, but I don't know how much time/opportunity he has to keep working at it >(and it's a bear of task too). > >( BTW, Bj旦rn, I can probably arrange for access to a Win32 box with the >Visual >Foo tools for you if that would help. ) > >- -- >Ladies and gentlemen, you must resist those all-too-human feelings and decide >this case on the evidence. And the evidence plainly shows that Mr. Landa's >injuries, disfiguring as they are, are nowhere near as important to a free >society as the fundamental right to make smart-ass remarks. -- Katie @ AtAT > >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- >Version: PGP SDK 3.0.2 > >iQA/AwUBPwXPb6PyPrIkdfXsEQIXwQCaA7e5raaXAl5yT/688Vbcd2TPWGYAoICt >ddaM3yM7PY30zlRDDwNb1UGW >=/LI0 >-----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
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