- From: Frank Ellermann <Frank.Ellermann@t-online.de>
- Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2003 21:43:01 +0100
- To: Terje Bless <link@pobox.com>
- CC: W3C Validator <www-validator@w3.org>
On Wed, 4 Dec 2002, Terje Bless wrote:
> If the content fails to make it through in any browser then
> _please_ tell me about it! It is expected that some things
> will fail to work 100% in (mainly) older browsers, but a
> significant design goal is that the main content should come
> through no matter what.
Some minor observations following this line:
© and ® don't work with Netscape 2.02 (3.x), this
also won't work with 4.61, but we already agreed to ignore all
"4.x" browsers... ;-) You could use the decimal notation for
copyright (©) and reg. trademark (®) on the result
page.
Unfortunately both browsers are also too stupid for “
and ” (4.61 knows “ resp. ”), maybe use
something like...
...identified itself as <i><q>Strict HTML 2.0</q></i> and...
...identified istelf as <em>Strict HTML 2.0</em> and...
...or similar (only <q> isn't enough, that's the same problem
as <del> vs. <s><del> with old browsers).
BTW, I have only one "HTML 2.0 Strict" page, because I wanted
to test the wonders of short tags. Normally the result page
proposes an icon like http://www.w3.org/Icons/valid-xhtml10,
but for strict 2.0 I had to find a corresponding icon manually:
<URL:http://validator.w3.org/images/vh20>.
> Is there a problem viewing the site in Netscape 3.x then?
Fragments like "Skip Navigation" or "Results" don't work (same
problem with 4.x), because there is only an id= (but no name=).
http://validator.w3.org/Consortium/Legal/ipr-notice#Copyright
is apparently broken, dito: #Legal_Disclaimer, #W3C_Trademarks
> Specifics, man. Specifics! :-)
Try <URL:http://validator.w3.org/checklink>, they've even got a
nice bugzilla... ;-)
[fragments]
> I'm still thinking about what policy to take in general on
> this.
[...]
> This either does not follow from the previous discussion or I
> am failing to understand it.
My idea was to add a _similar_ function like ",tablin" for the
missing name= attributes, it's simple enough for awk. I would
then add e.g. ",stoneage" to the URLs and get name= in addition
to id= (or even Ӓ instead of Ӓ) automatically.
But these are all minor issues, I'm much more interested in a
way to suppress the source output for erroneous pages. This is
almost a feature, if the result page needs more than 3 seconds
to load, then your validator has found some errors and echoes
the complete source, maybe trying to punish me... ;-)
Bye, Frank
Received on Saturday, 22 February 2003 15:45:49 UTC