- From: Michael D. Crawford <crawford@goingware.com>
- Date: Sun, 30 Jun 2002 05:52:42 -0230
- To: www-validator@w3.org
Summary: At least one free web hosting service appends HTML advertisements to members' pages that cause otherwise valid HTML documents to no longer validate. Why this is a problem: Obviously, you get what you pay for, and website authors who care whether their pages validate can pay for commercial hosting. But many people get their first exposure to web publishing by using the free hosting services. Many people cannot afford commercial hosting, such as the poor, students, people from developing countries, as well as people wanting to publish with some anonymity (not just warez distributors, but those working for political change). All these people should be able to enjoy the benefits of valid HTML brings to them and their users. Also, encouraging the free sites to use valid advertisements could result in a point of competitive advantage for some of the services, with the result that the remaining ones are pressured to follow suit, and mention it explicitly in their advertising, and thus raise consciousness about valid HTML in general. The long version: I taught my teenage niece how to write web pages tonight. She's had her first computer just a few months and has been very excited to learn how to use it. I thought I would try to be a good influence on her so from the very start I taught her to write hand-coded VALID html - XHTML 1.0 Strict, actually, and I got her started at CSS too, and what character encoding was and how to declare it in a <meta> tag. I taught her to use the W3C Validation Service. I decided she should get it hosted at one of the free hosting services. (Maybe if she keeps writing web pages I'll spring for a real host, but I want to make sure she's really into writing web pages first.) There are actually quite a few free hosts, you can find a list at: http://www.freewebspace.net/ I was hoping to find a host that didn't put their advertising on one's pages, and thought I found one, but it turns out the hosting service we selected appends a couple of advertising text links to the bottom of her page. But neither of us found that really objectionable. What we did find objectionable, though, is that the extra HTML results in an otherwise valid page no longer being able to validate! There are just a couple of problems which would be pretty simple to fix - but neither I nor my niece can fix them, they're in HTML inserted by the hosting service. I plan to write to the hosting service's tech support about this for her, but I suspect they won't be all that responsive. I would like to suggest that someone survey the free hosting services, and make up a list of services that will leave their members' pages valid - that is, if a page was valid when it was uploaded, then it is still valid when it comes off the hosting service, even if advertising is appended to the HTML. I'm going to post a message in the forum at http://www.freewebspace.net/ to point out this problem and suggest that the members there test the different services for valid HTML advertisements. If you'd like to check this out for yourself, see Denika's page at: http://free.hostdepartment.com/Sookie/ I'd put in a link to run the validator on Denika's page but the URL is so long it would wrap in the email. The original XHTML file validated when we uploaded it tonight. At some point Denika will upload a new draft, and her new draft might not validate. So if you want to investigate this in the long term, I suggest getting your own pages at each of the free sites. Regards, Michael D. Crawford GoingWare Inc. - Expert Software Development and Consulting http://www.goingware.com/ crawford@goingware.com Tilting at Windmills for a Better Tomorrow.
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