- From: Glenn Kusardi <gkmail@stylix.de>
- Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2002 13:45:40 +0200
- To: "M Chamlee" <developer@pobox.com>
- CC: www-validator@w3.org
> The problem with the current ALT attribute for graphics is that it shows up > as an onmouseover effect in many graphic browsers, and can cover or distract > from the usability of graphic navigation on the page. This is a problem of the browser. Mozilla for example doesn't show the ALT attribute as long as the image is displayed. > If I want to give a fully-functional explanation of the graphic that will be > legitimately useful to a visitor who does not see the graphic(s), the > explanation itself ends up being condescending or redundant to graphic users > because this distracting provision of alt tag information cannot be > separated from the graphic browser versions due to the onmouseover display > of alt information on top of the graphic. See above... There are two attributes available: "title" which _should_ be displayed as tool tip and should provide a _additional_ description to a picture and "alt" which _should_ only displayed if the image itself can't be shown and should provide a "image-replacing" description. > I'm not sure -and I'd like to know- what the convention is for commenting. > I'm guessing commented information in an html page does not show up in > screen readers, and I'm not suggesting it should. However, it would be > incredibly useful to have a comment-like tag that is only picked up and read > by the screenreader, but remains hidden in the source code away from the > graphic browser. Why? > While this information could be put in the normal page text, in an effective > commercial site there would likely already have been an image giving this > description visually and so the information would have been redundant to a > sighted user. The image may also have been placed somewhere in the layout > that made visual sense to a sighted visitor, but the description is more > coherent in the text somewhere else on the page for the screen-read visitor. You are just talking about "alt" and "title". > In text links, something like this would be useful: > <a href="link.php" SCREENNAME="Apply to receive brochure">Apply Now!</A> Why, text browser and GUI browser should display the same in this example. Further there exists a "title" Attribute for a Elements so you can provide additional information to a link. > Once again, the graphic positioning on the page would have provided enough > additional navigation cues to the sighted visitor to allow for the "apply > now" to be self evident as tied to the brochure offered. When screenread it > may not be, and such a tag would help make the connection much more assured > for a screen-read visitor. Then you have a wrong structured document. It should be, in both type of browser, clear what you mean with "Apply Now!". -- Sincerely, Glenn Kusardi mailto:gkmail@stylix.de
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