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Re: Article on Testing Web Apps

From: Michael D. Crawford <crawford@goingware.com>
Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 02:32:18 -0800
Message-Id: <v0300780eb6c916e6858b@[]>
To: www-validator@w3.org
James Pickering, JAMESICUS@aol.com, said:

>The following quick comments are offered with friendly and gentle intent (and
>are my humble opinions):

no need to be humble!  You should see what the "Anonymous Cowards" have to
say to me sometimes when I post on Slashdot.

> (suggestions for links to add)

noted, I'll add them tomorrow.

>Why not write your exemplar pages in XHTML 1.0  -- the current W3C
>recommendation -- and display their validation icon?

I do plan to do that actually.  I write my pages by pounding them out by
hand and it's a matter of absorbing it into my bones.  It's come hard to
"<p>content</p>" instead of just "content<p>".

I'll go back and verify all the links - or run my page through a link checker.

>>  http://www.goingware.com/
>Are you aware this page doesn't validate in either the W3C or WDG validators?
>Only one error for sure (line 246 - erroneous "p" end tag) that is easily
>correctable -- but if you are writing about the importance of validation you
>must be sure your own pages are "squeaky clean".

Ahem, yes.  "He who is without sin..."

I'd found this out myself earlier this evening, and I knew it wouldn't be
long before someone pointed it out, but it was quite a job getting the
article itself as good as it is.  I just had to stop working on it and get
the article out there.

I have a lot of pages on my consulting business site and some of them were
pretty hurriedly written, and it's a job dealing with that site too.

This page hangs the laundry out for all to see, I had to make sure all
_this_ checked out as my steller example:

Validate the Pages on the Linux Quality Database

each of the "Validate" links submits the corresponding web page to the W3C
validator.  I'm trying to suggest that web developers keep such validation
submission pages around to constantly test their own pages (but hopefully
submitting to a local server with the validator installed, I'll be trying
that out on my own Linux box soon).

(Um, would having lots of people having such validation link pages bring
your validator to its knees?  I don't want to bring disaster on such a fine

Some of the pages on my GoingWare site _do_ validate.  I even have a form
for the W3 validator here I put up a while back:


but (dear me) checking just now and that very page no longer validates.

Ah!  My resume validates as 4.01 transitional.  Gotta keep _that_ just spiffy.

You should have seen me when I was _writing_ DTDs.  I'd "validate" my DTDs
by validating a sample XML document against a draft of a DTD with IBM's
Xeena.  It was a learning experience.


Michael D. Crawford
GoingWare Inc. - Expert Software Development and Consulting

   Tilting at Windmills for a Better Tomorrow.
Received on Monday, 5 March 2001 02:32:15 UTC

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