- From: Riikonen Tommi NRC/Tre <tommi.riikonen@mnt.nokia.com>
- Date: Thu, 09 Jul 1998 15:51:53 +0200
- To: Phoschka@aol.com (EXT Phoschka), www-tv@w3.org (www-tv)
Hi Philipp and all others, Thanks for organizing the workshop on very important issues. It is really important to get standards for accessing the TV-related services from HTML and some kind of profile for broadcast HTML. W3C's active role in participating these issues is definetly needed to get things going on and standardized. Answers and comments: > From: EXT Phoschka > To: www-tv > Subject: Workshop feedback sought > Date: 6. Julyta 1998 9:53 > > Technical review > ---------------- > > The following topics had high priority: > > 1. New URL-scheme for TV channels [high] > (new URL for content in TV services) > broadcast-specific data on the Web (SI/PSI-like metadata: > schedule, etc.) > 6. interaction mechanisms for streaming media, linking [10] > 7. controlling streaming media [6] URL-scheme for pointing to broadcast services is needed. So, not only a pointing mechanism to TV channels but a wider concept is needed. Dan's television URL is targeted only for changing the TV channel from HTML and as such it might be hard to expand for more common use. It is not W3C's task to define the URL-scheme's name, but we can can give valuable input what should the structure look like and what attributes or parameters are needed. One starting point is to take the DAVIC's DVB URL specification as a base and then extend it to fullfill our needs. (I am talking now about digital TV/broadcast services, but maybe a mechanism to tune or switch to analog TV channels is needed too) The following content types are accessible via the DVB URL: • Audiovisual broadcast services in DVB Transport Streams • Files in DVB Data Carousels • File objects in DVB Object Carousels • Stream objects in DVB Object Carousels Part 9 of the DAVIC 1.3 specification (http://www.davic.org/DOWN1.htm) defines the DVB URL syntax as follows: dvb://<original_network_id>.<transport_stream_id>[.<service_id>[.<component_ tag>][;<event_id>]][/<...>] The <original_network_id>, <transport_stream_id>, <service_id>, <event_id> and <component_tag> are the values represented as hexadecimal strings without any "0x" prefix (for example, "4d2e"). Depending on the service the following part of the URL ("/<...>") may contain a more detailed specifier that identifies the desired part of the service. For example, if the service contains a data carousel, the last part of the URL may contain the file name. Any DVB service containing audio and/or video components can be accessed via the DVB URL. The service is uniquely identified by the DVB SI parameters original_network_id, transport_stream_id and service_id. A data component in a DVB service can also be accessed, provided that the data component is either a Data Carousel or an Object Carousel. ** Pointing from web HTML content to broadcast stream is also a needed feature. In the broadcasted SI/PSI data there is no possibility to transmit very large and content rich (e.g. lots of images, texts video clips) data. That is where traditional web content - broadcast or not - comes valuable. And a very important feature is to point to the actual TV program from this HTML content to get watching the TV program. Think for example DirecTV's online EPG at http://www.directv.com/misc/pgm_guide/guide.html. It would be nice to get to tuned to the channel just by pressing the corresponding HTML link. ** Controlling streaming media. Yep, we absolutely need a common standard set of functions to control the the streaming media. One approach is the way I presented in the workshop, but the most important is to get agreed of a standardized, or in case of W3C a recommended way of controlling the media. > 2. Broadcast HTML (tv-related profile of CSS, HTML, etc.) [high] > 4. Default style sheet for TV [high] Needed, because TVs are not as capable as PC to represent different complicated HTML content. And this way by having broadcast HTML compatible content we can be quite sure that it looks also good on TV. This is a good task for W3C to define the HTML profile, or do we need separate profiles... TV style sheet sounds a good idea if current CSS implementation allows to do all kind of modifications that might bee needed to fit the HTML nicely to TV screen. One problem is the resource & performance requirements that CSS support sets. Often the CPU and memory resources are very limited in the set-top box environment. > 3. Authoring guidelines [high] > 8. filtering/transforming data for specific devices > device profiles [6] > (re-processing color palettes, guidelines for ~,...) Nice to have one, but not W3C's task. We would be very delighted if for example HTML Writer's Guild could generate these guidelines. We can give input to this kind of work anyway from our own experience. Filtering and transforming sounds very device specific things and are probably hard to define in the standardized way. > 5. Metadata description/transport [10] Good idea, but maybe not currently the most important. Aren't there already other groups thinking these issues in other concepts... Maybe we can gain later from their outputs. > 9. accurate layout control[5] Good and bad. Of course it would be nice to define precisely where the objects appear, but in the same way we loose HTML's "proportionality". How for example changing the font size affects to the content... However layout control in some level is needed. > Questions > --------- Do we continue to use the wwwtv e-mail list for all things and technical questions or should we create separate groups for discussing different things? >From the discussions we can later probably form an interest group or a working group to get these issues further. > Organisational review > -------------------- > > - Did the workshop fullfill your expectations ? > - What did you get out of it ? > - What should be done differently next time ? Yes, it was good get people under the same roof to think these issues and present their own ideas. Hopefully some real actions are the final results. The workshop was also a good place to create synergy between different parties. Sincerely, Tommi Riikonen & Kimmo Djupsjöbacka Nokia Multimedia Network Terminals
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