- From: Daniel Dardailler <danield@w3.org>
- Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 15:55:31 +0100
- To: geoff freed <geoff_freed@wgbh.org>
- cc: w3c-wai-pf@w3.org, www-tt-tf@w3.org
OK, I added these names. > daniel: > > here are the names and e-mail addresses of the others to add to the list: > > -- APPLE: dave singer singer@apple.com > -- SPECHE: stephen brand sbrand@speche.com > -- GENERIC MEDIA: peter hoddie peter@genericmedia.com > -- MACROMEDIA: bob regan bregan@macromedia.com > -- CINDY KING: Cindy.King@gallaudet.edu > > phill jenkins says ibm is interested, too. phill, do you a contact name for the right person, or is it you? > > thanks. > geoff. > > > On Friday, January 11, 2002, Al Gilman <asgilman@iamdigex.net> wrote: > >At 09:48 AM 2002-01-11 , Daniel Dardailler wrote: > >> > >>ah, I see Al's message after I sent mine. > >> > > > >But I didn't have the benefit of the results of the W3M meeting > >when I wrote. > > > >A public-archive mailing list suits me fine. Then we have both a discussion > >space we can share with who we need and a record that the menbers can read of > >what went on there. > > > >Sounds better than what I was saying. D'accord. What you > >said. > > > >Al > > > >>It was agreed at W3C management level Wednesday that it was ok to > >>create a forum (i.e. a mailing list to start with) to organize the > >>work in this area before we're done identifying the exact W3C WG doing > >>the work. It has to be public. > >> > >>This is for process kind of things (a separate WG ? in which activity? > >>etc) but also to start refining technical requirements (e.g. reuse of > >>existing smil and xhtml modules) and the scope, role, milestone, and > >>start building a charter that can be sent to the W3C membership. > >> > >>I don't you all want to start working on element and attributes names > >>but I also hope you all undertand that if this XTMT format (making up > >>acronym as I type..) is going to become a Web Standard, it needs to > >>follow some W3C process lines, and it can't just be a group of > >>interested parties deciding to put resources together without telling > >>the world about it (careful with antitrust!). > >> > >>> > >>> At 08:52 AM 2002-01-10 , geoff freed wrote: > >>> > > >>> >I'd like to propose that from now on, any messages about timed text be > >>> relayed > >>> not only to the PF list but also to all non-PF timed-text participants. We > >>> have enough people interested now that it's becoming a pain for me to keep > >>> relaying messages from the PF group to people outside the group. Any > >problems > >>> with this? If not, I will send a message to all interested parties, > >including > >>> the PF list, so we all have everyone's contact information. > >>> > > >>> >Thanks. > >>> >Geoff/NCAM > >>> > > >>> > >>> Yes, we want to get the information shared reliably, including those not > >>> presently subscribed to the PF list. > >>> > >>> On the other hand, there is a well-founded concern that people not > >cross-post > >>> across Member-restricted and open spaces. So... > >>> > >>> [The information in this message may be shared with your recruits without > >>> regard to who has taken the W3C confidentiality pledge.] > >>> > >>> * Suggestion: We need some status migration for the people involved. > >>> > >>> People with active Member access on the W3C site should be added to the PF > >>> distribution. No, this does not mean that you promised 10% of your time. > >>> > >>> People from member organizations who have not gone through the process of > >>> gaining member access should do so through their member organization. > >>> [Proceed > >>> to step above] > >>> > >>> People from IT industry not member organizations should get their > >organization > >>> to join W3C. [All these things are negotiable, but distinguish this case > >from > >>> the next.] > >>> > >>> People without the business base to support W3C membership but with > >expertise > >>> in disability and technology should be identified to the leadership [start > >>> with > >>> Geoff Daniel and me] for possible Invited Expert status. > >>> > >>> So Geoff, We should try to track for your list of contacts to include, > >along > >>> with name, organization, email and phone, where the individuals stand on a > >>> scale of > >>> > >>> - have member access as individual > >>> - from member organization but no member access as individual > >>> - no formal ties to W3C > >>> > >>> At least you, Daniel and I should all have copies of the same list. We can > >>> help but what information you already have > >>> > >>> [Having spent the last year and a half in Grid Forum arguing against the > >idea > >>> that authorization information is defined in terms of a directory service, > >>> what > >>> we need here is a directory with authorization info...] > >>> > >>> * Discussion: > >>> > >>> The reason I suggest this is that "reply to all" is not reliable through > >>> enough > >>> iterations. There is just too high a rate of dropouts. This topic has > >>> demonstrated that already. It helps in remembering to get it to all > >affected > >>> people to have one or a few logical names for distribution lists. I have > >two > >>> symbols defined to cover this and I have added Rob to one of them. We can > >>> reasonably easily define a new named distribution at w3.org but I do not > >>> believe it would be wise to define one which blends confidentiality > >>> categories. So I am left with "get people on PF for now and split off > >later." > >>> > >>> Used 'timed text' somehow in subject lines dealing with this topic. > >>> > >>> Do we have anyone we need to have on distribution who does not have Member > >>> access? Perhaps Cindy King's associate, but she serves well enough as > >contact > >>> with that organization for now. > >>> > >>> I wish I had a simpler solution for you, but I don't see it yet. > >>> > >>> If I have a complete list, and there are truly "outside the firewall" > >>> people we > >>> must reach, maybe I should handle making sure they have copies? That may > >just > >>> be too baroque. > >>> > >>> Al > >>> > >> > >
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