- From: lilley <lilley@afs.mcc.ac.uk>
- Date: Mon, 24 Apr 1995 10:49:57 +0100 (BST)
- To: nazgul@utopia.com
- Cc: www-talk@www10.w3.org
> > >> Rick Silterra writes: > >> > I wonder if someone could point me to some code that > >> > would show how to serve up data tailored to a particular browser. > >> > Specifically, I would like to serve a file with > >> > some tables as <PRE> blocks for browsers that do not get tables > >> > yet, and html3 table stuff for browsers that do. > > Note that you can do some clever things which combine both Tables and > <pre>'s, but that's not always sufficient. We have a package we use that > acts as a "meta-server" and let's you #if your HTML code based on the > browser feature you wish to use (among other things). It acts as an > extension to your existing server. We're considering productizing it if > there is interest. > > >On Fri, 21 Apr 1995, Dan Connolly wrote: > >> Please don't key on the browser name (User-Agent) for this > >> functionality. The HTTP protocol has included a facility for > >> format negociation for several years. I hear the Apache group > >> has implemented it in their revision of the httpd 1.3 server. > > As I understand (correct me if I'm wrong), that facility let's you > negotiate on a broad scale - e.g. HTML2.0 vs. 3.0 or particular file > formats. That however, is not really the major issue. We just finished a > site which has some pages which make heavy use of Tables and Forms > (http://www.salemfive.com/salemfive/calcs.html). We tested it with > Netscape 1.1, Arena .96 and Mosaic 2.5b2. We ended up having conditionals > based on whether the browser supports Tables, whether it supports Tables > within Tables (that crashes/hangs the Cern and NCSA browsers), whether it > supports Forms within Tables and whether it supports Images within Tables. > > Content negotiation is certainly necessary, but it isn't sufficient. > > Which leads me to another question. Are there any browsers out there that > actually set the Accept fields based on the helper applications? I know > Netscape doesn't. It makes it rather difficult to determine what formats > can be sent to a browser. > > > Kee Hinckley Utopia Inc. - Cyberspace Architects=81 617/721-6100 > nazgul@utopia.com http://www.utopia.com/ > > I'm not sure which upsets me more: that people are so unwilling to accept > responsibility for their own actions, or that they are so eager to regulate > everyone else's. > > -- Chris Lilley +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ |Technical Author, Manchester and North HPC Training & Education Centre| +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Computer Graphics Unit, | Email: Chris.Lilley@mcc.ac.uk | | Manchester Computing Centre, | Voice: +44 61 275 6045 | | Oxford Road, Manchester, UK.M13 9PL | Fax: +44 61 275 6040 | +-------------------------------------+ BioMOO: ChrisL | | URI: http://info.mcc.ac.uk/CGU/staff/lilley/lilley.html | +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ | "The first W in WWW will not wait." François Yergeau | +----------------------------------------------------------------------+
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