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Re: Summary of TAG resolutions on Director-Free Process proposals

From: Roy T. Fielding <fielding@gbiv.com>
Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2019 17:09:22 -0700
Cc: Jeff Jaffe <jeff@w3.org>, W3C TAG <www-tag@w3.org>, David Singer <singer@apple.com>, Chris Wilson <cwilso@google.com>, Florian Rivoal <florian@rivoal.net>
Message-Id: <32B59A75-7E51-467B-8DBB-80591446FFE4@gbiv.com>
To: fantasai <fantasai.lists@inkedblade.net>
> On Sep 16, 2019, at 2:33 AM, fantasai <fantasai.lists@inkedblade.net> wrote:
> 
> On 9/15/19 8:16 AM, Jeff Jaffe wrote:
>> [dropping Process CG and AB]
>> [adding back AB members who were in the TAG session]
>> On 9/13/2019 5:21 AM, fantasai wrote:
>>> 
>>> Topic: W3C Objection Decision Council
>>> 
>>> RESOLVED: Council should pick its own chair, per issue, by consensus,
>>>           falling back to a vote if that fails. (Goal is to choose a
>>>           neutral chair for the topic.)
>>> 
>>> RESOLVED: Chair must be a member of the Council
>>> 
>>> RESOLVED: If FO not resolved in X days, chair MUST report status to AC.
>>>           Report MAY be public. Suggest 90 < X < 180. 
>> It is not clear to me that these were proper resolutions of the TAG since I had raised an issue with them, which AFAICT was not addressed.  I apologize that due to the use of Google Hangouts, the fact that I was in China, and poor connectivity (I was driving in a car for much of the session), I did not adequately tee up my issue.  Now with more time and space, let me raise the issue more completely.
> 
> It's up to the chair of the TAG to confirm whether these are proper resolutions of the TAG, but they did seem to reflect the consensus of the TAG members in the room, they were each posted on the white board explicitly for consideration by the TAG, and there was an explicit call for consensus prior to each point being marked as resolved.

FWIW, the TAG's charter specifically excludes "administrative, process, or organizational policy issues of W3C".

   https://www.w3.org/2004/10/27-tag-charter.html
   https://www.w3.org/2019/Process-20190301/#TAG

and thus all of those "resolutions" are out of scope for the TAG as a decision-making body.

It would be better to drop these formalities and just minute the discussion and opinions
presented.  The Team, AB, and AC can listen to well-informed opinions without them being
listed as TAG resolutions.

....Roy (speaking only as a former TAG member)
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