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Minutes of 2014-03-13 telcon

From: Jeni Tennison <jeni@jenitennison.com>
Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2014 18:46:58 +0000
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The minutes from today’s telcon are available at

http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2014/03/13-minutes.html

and reproduced below.

Jeni
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   [1]W3C

      [1] http://www.w3.org/

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              Technical Architecture Group Teleconference

13 Mar 2014

   [2]Agenda

      [2] https://www.w3.org/wiki/TAG/Planning/2014-03-13-TC

   See also: [3]IRC log

      [3] http://www.w3.org/2014/03/13-tagmem-irc

Attendees

   Present
          Peter, Dan, Jeni, Sergey, Domenic, Dave, Yves

   Regrets
          Yehuda, Alex

   Chair
          Peter

   Scribe
          Jeni

Contents

     * [4]Topics
         1. [5]Extensible Web Summit
         2. [6]F2F Agenda
         3. [7]Updates
     * [8]Summary of Action Items
     __________________________________________________________

   <trackbot> Date: 13 March 2014

   trackbot, start telcon

   <trackbot> Meeting: Technical Architecture Group Teleconference

   <trackbot> Date: 13 March 2014

   <scribe> ScribeNick: JeniT

   <scribe> Scribe: Jeni

Extensible Web Summit

   Domenic_: what should we prepare?

   dka: we should have some short curated talks at the beginning
   of the day
   ... this is just to introduce topics
   ... we could outline in a shared document some ideas about what
   those talks should be
   ... and we can discuss at the F2F, which is 3 days beforehand
   ... I just sent out an email to invitees who haven't registered
   ... I'll open more general registration tomorrow
   ... which we should advertise
   ... to already-knowledgable developers

   Domenic__: we should start that shared document for planning,
   eg topics, format

   dka: there's an etherpad
   ... also, I had a ping from Evan Gill from Adobe asking about
   catering, budget, numbers etc

   <twirl> [9]https://ewe.etherpad.mozilla.org/1

      [9] https://ewe.etherpad.mozilla.org/1

   dka: if we don't have money, attendees can purchase food from
   the Adobe cafe

   Domenic__: we can encourage going out for lunch

   plinss: could we send out a reminder to tag member list please

F2F Agenda

   plinss: we have the wiki page for the agenda topics

   Domenic__: we might want to discuss module (?) integration

Updates

   dka: nothing from me

   JeniT: nothing from me

   twirl: question from me: what should we do with EME draft?

   <dka> We may want to schedule a special call or chat or
   something about summit organization ...

   twirl: I think it needs some population & fixing up

   <Yves> eme draft... => f2f topic

   +1 f2f topic

   Domenic__: did we capture all the feedback?

   JeniT: I think an informed discussion at the f2f needs to
   include a structure + a summary of the discussion

   Domenic__: and should we do anything between now and f2f?

   plinss: twirl, please can you organise the feedback?

   Domenic__: I revised quota management review
   ... I think we should send that over shortly
   ... that was a good review in many ways, it clarified some
   things about what's important
   ... and illustrated some general patterns that we should pull
   together
   ... I saw twirl did web animations spec review too
   ... which looks great from my scan, but I'll look at further
   ... the promises guide is wrapping up
   ... I got information about WebIDL & promises
   ... the last piece was about authors needing specific
   information
   ... the promises guide should be ready for review at f2f and
   then publication

   plinss: you want to send the quota management review?

   Domenic__: yes, unless there are objections

   plinss: any objections?

   twirl: I'm very happy

   dka: any more feedback should be in by Monday

   plinss: Domenic__, please prompt people on the list

   Domenic__: will do

   <Domenic__>
   [10]https://github.com/w3ctag/api-design-guide/blob/master/API%
   20Design%20Guide.md

     [10] https://github.com/w3ctag/api-design-guide/blob/master/API%20Design%20Guide.md

   Domenic__: design guide is very high level
   ... lot of good possibilities there
   ... what I did with quota mgmt was more specific
   ... "here's what's wrong, here's why, here's how you'd do it in
   JS"
   ... useful as feedback but not necessarily something you'd read

   dherman: you're saying you're not sure whether to capture at
   that level of detail?

   <twirl>
   [11]http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2013/10/01-minutes.html#item02

     [11] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2013/10/01-minutes.html#item02

   Domenic__: I don't think we should expect people to read it

   twirl: we discussed guide at last Cambridge f2f meeting
   ... including what the guide should be
   ... we decided we needed more completed reviews to make the
   guide
   ... I had an action to start doing this guide, but I'm waiting
   for more reviews to make it

   plinss: it's worth capturing, could be an appendix

   Yves: no updates

   dherman: I started drafting an explainer for module integration
   ... and some requirements documents
   ... got a lot more attention than I expected
   ... but it's going pretty well, though there are some people
   that aren't happy
   ... I'm trying to capture as much design/rationale/requirements
   as I can
   ... that will feed discussion at f2f
   ... that's just in my github repo

   <dherman> [12]https://github.com/dherman/web-modules/

     [12] https://github.com/dherman/web-modules/

   dherman: we're working on new browser engine called Servo
   ... redesigned from scratch
   ... building better abstractions in the architecture
   ... using extensible web philosophy & web components, layering
   implementation
   ... I was pitching looking at web components sooner rather than
   later
   ... and got interest
   ... we're looking at core primitives for CSS

   <Domenic__> +1 for more external contribs with web components

   dherman: the Servo team will be valuable in the extensible web
   discussions
   ... and I'll try to bring them along to the summit
   ... specifically to discuss CSS

   <dka> +1

   dherman: Servo is an interesting project that I'd like people
   to be aware of

   <Domenic__> I could easily see hacking on <input type="date">
   on a weekend

   dherman: trying very different approaches from other browser
   engines
   ... useful as a way of testing ideas for new features in the
   platform
   ... to ensure they're implementable in very different engines

   Domenic__: it would be great to have that discussion at the
   summit

   dherman: they already do loads of abstraction from CSS in Servo
   ... lots of interesting stuff to talk about

Summary of Action Items

   [End of minutes]
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