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Re: A proposal for revising the rules on TAG Participation

From: Christopher B Ferris <chrisfer@us.ibm.com>
Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2014 13:07:16 -0600
To: "Noah Mendelsohn" <nrm@arcanedomain.com>
Message-ID: <96CD2074-2958-45FB-8E6A-C7BD37D23E05@us.ibm.com>
Cc: "David Booth" <david@dbooth.org>, "Marcos Caceres" <w3c@marcosc.com>, "www-tag@w3.org" <www-tag@w3.org>, "Charles McCathie Nevile" <chaals@yandex-team.ru>, "Tim Berners-Lee" <timbl@w3.org>, "Alex Russell" <slightlyoff@google.com>


Christopher Ferris
IBM Distinguished Engineer
CTO Cloud Interoperability

> On Jul 12, 2014, at 11:09 AM, "Noah Mendelsohn" <nrm@arcanedomain.com>
> On 7/12/2014 12:50 AM, David Booth wrote:
> >
> > No matter how well-meaning one is, it simply is not possible to
> > neutrality (or the appearance thereof) when one's food and mortgage are
> > paid by one's employer.
> David, I think you go too far there. Though I'm sure it's unintentional,
> this is really a slight to many people who on various W3C committees have
> done just that, or at least come very close. More enlightened employers
> employees understand that, at least for some companies, promoting the
> term health of the Web has more business value than advantaging some
> particular corporate product or feature. In such cases, the feeling of
> conflict goes way down.
> Furthermore, and I suspect at the core of Marcos' concerns: even
> enlightened and well-intentioned bureaucracies tend to more easily
> recognize the value of, and plan for, formally committed employee
> activities. Joining a committee gives an organization a one-time chance
> ask the questions: is this what we want (e.g. Marcos) to do? Are we
> committed to supporting (him) with travel money and work time? When that
> same employee is making that same contribution more informally, the
> organization has a less clear opportunity to buy into that commitment. I
> saw this at IBM all the time, and indeed I see it now: when I was
> officially chair of the TAG, Tufts University (my current employer)
> understood my contribution. If I tell them I participate in discussions
> like this to continue to help the W3C they tend to ask "but what are you
> really doing?".
> In short, there are good and understandable reasons why contributing to
> TAG informally can be harder than formally participating as a TAG member.
> Noah
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