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Re: A new HTTP response code say 209

From: Daniel Appelquist <Daniel.Appelquist@telefonica.com>
Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2013 17:04:32 +0000
To: TAG List <www-tag@w3.org>
CC: Mark Nottingham <mnot@mnot.net>, Yves Lafon <ylafon@w3.org>, "plh@w3.org Le Hegaret" <plh@w3.org>, Peter Linss <peter.linss@hp.com>, Tim Berners-Lee <timbl@w3.org>, Phil Archer <phila@w3.org>, Arnaud Hors <lehors@us.ibm.com>, Eric Prud'hommeaux <eric@w3.org>
Message-ID: <CED8D6CB.3499C%daniel.appelquist@telefonica.com>
Hi Tim -

For today’s call we have a technical discussion on the Push API teed up
(http://www.w3.org/wiki/TAG/planning/2013-12-19-TC).  We have a tentative
session on “data on the Web” organized for the London f2f with guest Phil
Archer coming along. Could we include this topic in that discussion?


On 19/12/2013 16:55, "Tim Berners-Lee" <timbl@w3.org> wrote:

>We need a new 20X status code (we refer to it as 209, though that can be
>regarded as a placeholder) to allow information relating to and useful
>but different from the original thing.
>209 could be deemed to be definitely equivalent  equivalent to 303 "see
>also" to another URI which gives 200.  The Location: y   header from the
>303 would be the same as the one used in the 209 to identify the URI of
>the meta resource.
>The fact that existing LD systems use 303 and LDP systems are thinking of
>it is a serious architectural problem as the extra round trips.
>The payload is machine readable in each case I am interested in.
>Example uses:
>- You asked for massive data, I give you instructions for doing a query
>for a part of it
>- You asked for a large thing, this is the first page of it.  See
>Proposal [1]
>- You asked for some thing with URI u, I give you a document about it
>which has a different URI. Classic linked data use case see eg [2]
>Possible process paths:
>- Just define 209 in the spec, as an unauthorized extension of HTTP.
>People do this with headers and HTML tags all the time.  Do this with
>IESG blessing.   This may not be deemed an appropriate process with in
>the IETF which has change control.
>- Start an IETF effort to define 209 from the ground up, ASAP.  Problems:
>the LDP working group's lack of confidence that the process would be
>timely and would not be waylaid by people who did not have/understand the
>needs of the linked data community.
>- Reserve the 209 code with a an internet draft -- and then code it into
>current code, then other of the
>- Etc ...  many other combinations
>Can we discuss this at the next call?
>Sorry about the short notice.

>[2] http://linkeddatabook.com/editions/1.0/#htoc12


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