- From: (unknown charset) Henry S. Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk>
- Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2011 12:46:46 +0000
- To: (unknown charset) (unknown charset) Martin J. Dürst <duerst@it.aoyama.ac.jp>
- Cc: (unknown charset) Jonathan Rees <jar@creativecommons.org>, Tim Berners-Lee <timbl@w3.org>, TAG List <www-tag@w3.org>
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 [oops, resent with missing references filled in] So, the distant-reference (<a href="...">) vs. transclusion (<img src="..."/> or <object...>... ) issue does seem fundamental to me. So I did some digging, using the Internet Archive. As of 20 January 2008, all the 'links' on the channelsurfing.net home page [1] were links to other pages at channelsurfing.net, e.g. [2], which in turn _were_ set up to use transclusion to present streaming video from e.g. [3] in a context provided by channelsurfing.net, with their advertisements surrounding the feed: <OBJECT ... CLASSID="CLSID:22D6F312-B0F6-11D0-94AB-0080C74C7E95" CODEBASE="http://activex.microsoft.com/activex/controls/ mplayer/en/nsmp2inf.cab#Version=5,1,52,701" STANDBY="Loading Microsoft Windows Media Player..." TYPE="application/x-oleobject"> <PARAM NAME="FileName" value="rtsp://stream.maniatv.com/tomgreenlive"> . . . </OBJECT > This pattern persists as of 21 June 2008, which is the last date for which I was able to retrieve a channelsurfing.net page [4] from the Internet Archive. They list a page for 25 October 2009, but I have so far been unable to download it. It seems to me this approach is fundamentally different, from a Web Architecture _and_ a copyright perspective, from what e.g. cyclingfans.com [5] does, which is aggregate information about live streaming coverage of cycle races, using distant-references. In particular, any attempt to describe the channelsurfing.net case as "just another deep-linking case" is at best a gross over-simplification. ht [1] http://web.archive.org/web/20080110181321/http://www.channelsurfing.net/index.html [2] http://web.archive.org/web/20080110181321/http://www.channelsurfing.net/watch-tom-green.html [3] rtsp://stream.maniatv.com/tomgreenlive [4] http://web.archive.org/web/20080601213719/www.channelsurfing.net/watch-pokerzone.html [5] http://www.cyclingfans.com/ - -- Henry S. Thompson, School of Informatics, University of Edinburgh 10 Crichton Street, Edinburgh EH8 9AB, SCOTLAND -- (44) 131 650-4440 Fax: (44) 131 651-1426, e-mail: ht@inf.ed.ac.uk URL: http://www.ltg.ed.ac.uk/~ht/ [mail from me _always_ has a .sig like this -- mail without it is forged spam] -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFNehm2kjnJixAXWBoRAsLXAJ4qwATL3CUGbIiT4OrkaIdfNqoIawCfZr4J Xy3fbh4ks1rbR13QRoDWuqQ= =GrHw -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
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