- From: Jonathan Rees <jar@creativecommons.org>
- Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 14:36:07 -0400
- To: www-tag@w3.org
Draft minutes of our 13 May 2010 telecon are at http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2010/05/13-minutes and in plain text below. I didn't record any regrets - were there any? Best Jonathan -------------------------------------------------------- [1]W3C [1] http://www.w3.org/ - DRAFT - TAG Weekly 13 May 2010 [2]Agenda [2] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2010/05/13-agenda See also: [3]IRC log [3] http://www.w3.org/2010/05/13-tagmem-irc Attendees Present DKA, Jonathan_Rees, DanC, Noah_Mendelsohn, John_Kemp, Ashok_Malhotra Regrets Chair Noah Mendelsohn Scribe Jonathan Rees Contents * [4]Topics 1. [5]Convene 2. [6]Minutes 3. [7]Administrative items 4. [8]Overdue Action Items 5. [9]XHTML Basic 1.1 6. [10]Overdue Action Items 7. [11]W3C Vision 8. [12]HTML 5 review 9. [13]Logic terminology for httpSemantics * [14]Summary of Action Items _________________________________________________________ <scribe> scribe: Jonathan Rees <scribe> scribenick: jar <DanC> fixed regrets in [15]http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2010/05/06-minutes Date: 2010/05/13 17:03:35 [15] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2010/05/06-minutes Convene F2F regrets JohnK, DanC, Raman Minutes noah: they look ok RESOLUTION: approve [16]http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2010/05/06-minutes [16] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2010/05/06-minutes Administrative items (Dan A with info about the F2F) (discussion of ash cloud) Overdue Action Items <DanC> action-352? <trackbot> ACTION-352 -- John Kemp to integrate whiteboard drawings into a prose document about ways to distribute applications -- due 2010-05-06 -- OPEN <trackbot> [17]http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/352 [17] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/352 action-352? <trackbot> ACTION-352 -- John Kemp to integrate whiteboard drawings into a prose document about ways to distribute applications -- due 2010-05-06 -- OPEN <trackbot> [18]http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/352 [18] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/352 johnk: Is integrated into document that Ashok is preparing <noah> [19]http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2010/04/22-minutes#item08 [19] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2010/04/22-minutes#item08 <johnk> ACTION-416? <trackbot> ACTION-416 -- John Kemp to work on diagrams in "From Server-side to client-side" section of webapps material -- due 2010-06-06 -- OPEN <trackbot> [20]http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/416 [20] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/416 <noah> <DanC> action-352? <noah> <trackbot> ACTION-352 -- John Kemp to integrate whiteboard drawings into a prose document about ways to distribute applications -- due 2010-03-08 -- PENDINGREVIEW <noah> <trackbot> [21]http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/352 [21] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/352 <noah> <Ashok> I cannot cahnge the access right -- needs team priviledges <noah> <noah> John, should we close 352 <noah> <DanC> john, NM thinks maybe it's just an admin error that 352 isn't closed <noah> <noah> should we have closed it at the F2F? <noah> <johnk__> I did ACTION-352, but, at the F2F we decided to keep the action open <noah> [22]http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2010/03/web-apps-taxonomy/web-apps-ta xonomy.html [22] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2010/03/web-apps-taxonomy/web-apps-taxonomy.html <DanC> action-352: [23]http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2010/04/WebApps.html [23] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2010/04/WebApps.html <trackbot> ACTION-352 Integrate whiteboard drawings into a prose document about ways to distribute applications notes added noah: JohnK please add link & then close 352 <DanC> close action-352 <trackbot> ACTION-352 Integrate whiteboard drawings into a prose document about ways to distribute applications closed <DanC> action-352: see action-416 for follow-up <trackbot> ACTION-352 Integrate whiteboard drawings into a prose document about ways to distribute applications notes added johnk: busy, hoping to make progress before f2f (it will be close) <johnk> ACTION-355? <trackbot> ACTION-355 -- John Kemp to explore the degree to which AWWW and associated findings tell the interaction story for Web Applications -- due 2010-05-08 -- OPEN <trackbot> [24]http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/355 [24] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/355 ashok: JohnK and I will talk & then provide f2f agenda input <johnk> ACTION-355: due + 1 month <trackbot> ACTION-355 Explore the degree to which AWWW and associated findings tell the interaction story for Web Applications notes added <DanC> ACTION-355 due + 1 month <trackbot> ACTION-355 Explore the degree to which AWWW and associated findings tell the interaction story for Web Applications due date now + 1 month <DanC> action-390? <trackbot> ACTION-390 -- Daniel Appelquist to review ISSUE-58 and suggest next steps, due 2010-03-03 -- due 2010-04-29 -- OPEN <trackbot> [25]http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/390 [25] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/390 XHTML Basic 1.1 <DKA> ACTION-420? <trackbot> ACTION-420 -- Daniel Appelquist to what is different about xhtml basic 1.1 (in particular re: namespaces) -- due 2010-04-29 -- OPEN <trackbot> [26]http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/420 [26] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/420 <DKA> [27]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2010May/0032.html [27] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2010May/0032.html dka: Sent email re 420 today <DanC> (trying to remember why we wanted DKA to do this... context: [28]http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2010/03/26-minutes.html#item06 ) [28] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2010/03/26-minutes.html#item06 dka: I'll send email about differences between XHTML strict and XHTML basic close ACTION-420 <trackbot> ACTION-420 What is different about xhtml basic 1.1 (in particular re: namespaces) closed <DKA> ACTION-390? Overdue Action Items <trackbot> ACTION-390 -- Daniel Appelquist to review ISSUE-58 and suggest next steps, due 2010-03-03 -- due 2010-04-29 -- OPEN <trackbot> [29]http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/390 [29] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/390 <DanC> issue-58? <trackbot> ISSUE-58 -- Scalability of URI Access to Resources -- OPEN <trackbot> [30]http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/issues/58 [30] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/issues/58 <DanC> action-413? <trackbot> ACTION-413 -- Dan Connolly to suggest a path thru some logic terminology that might speed up httpSemantics discussions -- due 2010-05-07 -- PENDINGREVIEW <trackbot> [31]http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/413 [31] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/413 W3C Vision <noah> ACTION-431? <DanC> . close action-431 action-431? <trackbot> ACTION-431 -- Ashok Malhotra to contact Jeff/PLH regarding particiapation in W3C core mission TF -- due 2010-05-13 -- OPEN <trackbot> [32]http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/431 [32] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/431 dka: Would like to participate. Will contact JJ HTML 5 review noah: availability of schemas - let's take this up when Larry's here <noah> action-413? <noah> action-413? <trackbot> ACTION-413 -- Dan Connolly to suggest a path thru some logic terminology that might speed up httpSemantics discussions -- due 2010-05-07 -- PENDINGREVIEW <trackbot> [33]http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/413 [33] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/413 Logic terminology for httpSemantics [34]http://docs.google.com/present/view?id=dfhtjfgw_9chw68rcm [34] http://docs.google.com/present/view?id=dfhtjfgw_9chw68rcm <noah> NM: Author is you, DanC? <noah> DC: Yes. danc: At the F2F there was an objection to the FOL presentation around ambiguity ... and JAR and I said if you just took the usual FOL approach the confusion is dispelled (ambiguity is inherent and controlled) (danc going through slides) noah: A few more words around slide 8 please? ... slide 12: Can you tell me why we speak of constants separately from the things in D? ... ok, constants are symbols, while D contains domain elements ("real things") <DKA> doesn't (~M(x) | D(x))) imply that anything that is not a man does not die? <DKA> Note: Provenance incubator group working on provenance - worth getting a report on that? [35]http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/prov/ [35] http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/prov/ danc: JAR said, ambiguity is what happens when there's more than one satisfying interpretation, and that's almost always ... if only I could get TimBL to stipulate that <DanC> ... then I'd understand Tim's position better <DanC> (fwiw, records of the genesis of this action [36]http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2010/03/25-minutes.html#item03x ) [36] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2010/03/25-minutes.html#item03x close action-413 <trackbot> ACTION-413 Suggest a path thru some logic terminology that might speed up httpSemantics discussions closed <DanC> no, (~M(x) | D(x))) does not imply that anything that is not a man does not die. ~F|G and ~F do not imply ~G. <DanC> provenance IG is an interesting idea; maybe I'll have a look around there ADJOURNED Summary of Action Items [End of minutes] _________________________________________________________ Minutes formatted by David Booth's [37]scribe.perl version 1.133 ([38]CVS log) $Date: 2010/05/18 18:28:57 $ [37] http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/2002/scribe/scribedoc.htm [38] http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/2002/scribe/
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