- From: Jonathan Rees <jar@creativecommons.org>
- Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 14:36:07 -0400
- To: www-tag@w3.org
Draft minutes of our 13 May 2010 telecon are at
http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2010/05/13-minutes and in plain text below.
I didn't record any regrets - were there any?
Best
Jonathan
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[1]W3C
[1] http://www.w3.org/
- DRAFT -
TAG Weekly
13 May 2010
[2]Agenda
[2] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2010/05/13-agenda
See also: [3]IRC log
[3] http://www.w3.org/2010/05/13-tagmem-irc
Attendees
Present
DKA, Jonathan_Rees, DanC, Noah_Mendelsohn, John_Kemp,
Ashok_Malhotra
Regrets
Chair
Noah Mendelsohn
Scribe
Jonathan Rees
Contents
* [4]Topics
1. [5]Convene
2. [6]Minutes
3. [7]Administrative items
4. [8]Overdue Action Items
5. [9]XHTML Basic 1.1
6. [10]Overdue Action Items
7. [11]W3C Vision
8. [12]HTML 5 review
9. [13]Logic terminology for httpSemantics
* [14]Summary of Action Items
_________________________________________________________
<scribe> scribe: Jonathan Rees
<scribe> scribenick: jar
<DanC> fixed regrets in
[15]http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2010/05/06-minutes Date: 2010/05/13
17:03:35
[15] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2010/05/06-minutes
Convene
F2F regrets JohnK, DanC, Raman
Minutes
noah: they look ok
RESOLUTION: approve
[16]http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2010/05/06-minutes
[16] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2010/05/06-minutes
Administrative items
(Dan A with info about the F2F)
(discussion of ash cloud)
Overdue Action Items
<DanC> action-352?
<trackbot> ACTION-352 -- John Kemp to integrate whiteboard drawings
into a prose document about ways to distribute applications -- due
2010-05-06 -- OPEN
<trackbot> [17]http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/352
[17] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/352
action-352?
<trackbot> ACTION-352 -- John Kemp to integrate whiteboard drawings
into a prose document about ways to distribute applications -- due
2010-05-06 -- OPEN
<trackbot> [18]http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/352
[18] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/352
johnk: Is integrated into document that Ashok is preparing
<noah> [19]http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2010/04/22-minutes#item08
[19] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2010/04/22-minutes#item08
<johnk> ACTION-416?
<trackbot> ACTION-416 -- John Kemp to work on diagrams in "From
Server-side to client-side" section of webapps material -- due
2010-06-06 -- OPEN
<trackbot> [20]http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/416
[20] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/416
<noah> <DanC> action-352?
<noah> <trackbot> ACTION-352 -- John Kemp to integrate whiteboard
drawings into a prose document about ways to distribute applications
-- due 2010-03-08 -- PENDINGREVIEW
<noah> <trackbot>
[21]http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/352
[21] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/352
<noah> <Ashok> I cannot cahnge the access right -- needs team
priviledges
<noah> <noah> John, should we close 352
<noah> <DanC> john, NM thinks maybe it's just an admin error that
352 isn't closed
<noah> <noah> should we have closed it at the F2F?
<noah> <johnk__> I did ACTION-352, but, at the F2F we decided to
keep the action open
<noah>
[22]http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2010/03/web-apps-taxonomy/web-apps-ta
xonomy.html
[22] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2010/03/web-apps-taxonomy/web-apps-taxonomy.html
<DanC> action-352:
[23]http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2010/04/WebApps.html
[23] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2010/04/WebApps.html
<trackbot> ACTION-352 Integrate whiteboard drawings into a prose
document about ways to distribute applications notes added
noah: JohnK please add link & then close 352
<DanC> close action-352
<trackbot> ACTION-352 Integrate whiteboard drawings into a prose
document about ways to distribute applications closed
<DanC> action-352: see action-416 for follow-up
<trackbot> ACTION-352 Integrate whiteboard drawings into a prose
document about ways to distribute applications notes added
johnk: busy, hoping to make progress before f2f (it will be close)
<johnk> ACTION-355?
<trackbot> ACTION-355 -- John Kemp to explore the degree to which
AWWW and associated findings tell the interaction story for Web
Applications -- due 2010-05-08 -- OPEN
<trackbot> [24]http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/355
[24] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/355
ashok: JohnK and I will talk & then provide f2f agenda input
<johnk> ACTION-355: due + 1 month
<trackbot> ACTION-355 Explore the degree to which AWWW and
associated findings tell the interaction story for Web Applications
notes added
<DanC> ACTION-355 due + 1 month
<trackbot> ACTION-355 Explore the degree to which AWWW and
associated findings tell the interaction story for Web Applications
due date now + 1 month
<DanC> action-390?
<trackbot> ACTION-390 -- Daniel Appelquist to review ISSUE-58 and
suggest next steps, due 2010-03-03 -- due 2010-04-29 -- OPEN
<trackbot> [25]http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/390
[25] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/390
XHTML Basic 1.1
<DKA> ACTION-420?
<trackbot> ACTION-420 -- Daniel Appelquist to what is different
about xhtml basic 1.1 (in particular re: namespaces) -- due
2010-04-29 -- OPEN
<trackbot> [26]http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/420
[26] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/420
<DKA>
[27]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2010May/0032.html
[27] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2010May/0032.html
dka: Sent email re 420 today
<DanC> (trying to remember why we wanted DKA to do this... context:
[28]http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2010/03/26-minutes.html#item06 )
[28] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2010/03/26-minutes.html#item06
dka: I'll send email about differences between XHTML strict and
XHTML basic
close ACTION-420
<trackbot> ACTION-420 What is different about xhtml basic 1.1 (in
particular re: namespaces) closed
<DKA> ACTION-390?
Overdue Action Items
<trackbot> ACTION-390 -- Daniel Appelquist to review ISSUE-58 and
suggest next steps, due 2010-03-03 -- due 2010-04-29 -- OPEN
<trackbot> [29]http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/390
[29] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/390
<DanC> issue-58?
<trackbot> ISSUE-58 -- Scalability of URI Access to Resources --
OPEN
<trackbot> [30]http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/issues/58
[30] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/issues/58
<DanC> action-413?
<trackbot> ACTION-413 -- Dan Connolly to suggest a path thru some
logic terminology that might speed up httpSemantics discussions --
due 2010-05-07 -- PENDINGREVIEW
<trackbot> [31]http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/413
[31] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/413
W3C Vision
<noah> ACTION-431?
<DanC> . close action-431
action-431?
<trackbot> ACTION-431 -- Ashok Malhotra to contact Jeff/PLH
regarding particiapation in W3C core mission TF -- due 2010-05-13 --
OPEN
<trackbot> [32]http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/431
[32] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/431
dka: Would like to participate. Will contact JJ
HTML 5 review
noah: availability of schemas - let's take this up when Larry's here
<noah> action-413?
<noah> action-413?
<trackbot> ACTION-413 -- Dan Connolly to suggest a path thru some
logic terminology that might speed up httpSemantics discussions --
due 2010-05-07 -- PENDINGREVIEW
<trackbot> [33]http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/413
[33] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/413
Logic terminology for httpSemantics
[34]http://docs.google.com/present/view?id=dfhtjfgw_9chw68rcm
[34] http://docs.google.com/present/view?id=dfhtjfgw_9chw68rcm
<noah> NM: Author is you, DanC?
<noah> DC: Yes.
danc: At the F2F there was an objection to the FOL presentation
around ambiguity
... and JAR and I said if you just took the usual FOL approach the
confusion is dispelled (ambiguity is inherent and controlled)
(danc going through slides)
noah: A few more words around slide 8 please?
... slide 12: Can you tell me why we speak of constants separately
from the things in D?
... ok, constants are symbols, while D contains domain elements
("real things")
<DKA> doesn't (~M(x) | D(x))) imply that anything that is not a man
does not die?
<DKA> Note: Provenance incubator group working on provenance - worth
getting a report on that? [35]http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/prov/
[35] http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/prov/
danc: JAR said, ambiguity is what happens when there's more than one
satisfying interpretation, and that's almost always
... if only I could get TimBL to stipulate that
<DanC> ... then I'd understand Tim's position better
<DanC> (fwiw, records of the genesis of this action
[36]http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2010/03/25-minutes.html#item03x )
[36] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2010/03/25-minutes.html#item03x
close action-413
<trackbot> ACTION-413 Suggest a path thru some logic terminology
that might speed up httpSemantics discussions closed
<DanC> no, (~M(x) | D(x))) does not imply that anything that is not
a man does not die. ~F|G and ~F do not imply ~G.
<DanC> provenance IG is an interesting idea; maybe I'll have a look
around there
ADJOURNED
Summary of Action Items
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