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Agenda for TAG Teleconference of 6 Aug 2009

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Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 17:39:30 -0400
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A somewhat tentative agenda for the 6 Aug 2009 TAG teleconference is 
posted at [1,2], and is available in text form below.  I have not had the 
time to prepare this with as much care as usual, so there may be some 
mistakes or omissions.   Also, I will be away from the office Tues & Wed, 
so any comments on this won't get seen until I return Thurs morning.  If 
there are any changes necessary I will make them then, or TAG members can 
bring up additional items at the start of the call. 

Overall, I request that TAG members review and update the status of open 
action items [3], as these will be the main means of structuring our 
discussions on Thursday and through the summer.

Thank you.


[1] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/tag-weekly

[2] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2009/08/06-agenda

[3] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/open

Noah Mendelsohn 
IBM Corporation
One Rogers Street
Cambridge, MA 02142

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      [1] http://www.w3.org/

      [2] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/

      [3] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2009/07/23-agenda

                Agenda of 6 Aug 2009 TAG teleconference

   Nearby: [4]Teleconference details - [5]issues list and [6]Issue
   Tracker ([7]handling new issues) - [8]www-tag archive - [9]tag
    1. Convene
          + Chair: Noah, Scribe: John Kemp (confirmed)
          + Roll call -- Regrets: Ashok Malhotra, Jonathan Rees, Tim
            Berners-Lee; Henry Thompson is "at risk"
          + Agenda Review - [10]this agenda
          + Next Telcon: 13 August 2009 Chair: Noah; Scribe: Larry
            Masinter (unconfirmed)
          + Future scribes: Larry -> Jonathan -> Henry
    2. Approval of Minutes
          + [11]23 July 2009
    3. Administrative items (Brief)
          + [12]TAG Summer Teleconference Schedule (W3C member-only)
          + Reminder that a [13]Call for Exclusions has been sent for
            patents relating to the [14]First Public Working Draft of
            our Finding on Usage Patterns For Client-Side URL
            parameters. The call for exclusions ends 22 October 2009.
          + Reminder of future F2F meetings:
               o 23-25 Sept 2009 @ MIT (Per [15]resolution of 24 June
               o 2-6 November 2006 @ [16]W3C Technical Plenary, Santa
                 Clara, CA
               o 8-10 December 2009 @ MIT - contingent on on
                 consultation with John Kemp and T.V. Raman (Per
                 [17]resolution of 25 June 2009). Raman has since
                 [18]confirmed that this plan is OK with him, but
                 warned that he may not attend.
          + Suggestion that we co-locate TAG meeting with IETF meeting
            in Anaheim, 21-26 March 2010 ([19]email from Larry and
            [20]response from Noah — both W3C member-only)
       Note: most of the remainder of this agenda is structured
       according to the priorities
       ([21]http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2009/06/TagPriorities.txt) that
       were [22]agreed at the June 2009 TAG F2F.
    4. HTML
          + Background:
               o Discussion of versioning and HTML at June 2009 TAG F2F
                 ([23]session 1 and [24]session 2)
               o June 2009 F2F discussion of [25]plans to review HTML 5
               o [26]Architectural Considerations for Language
                 Versioning for the Web (Note from Larry Masinter and
                 Jonathan Rees)
               o Ian Hickson [27]announces availability of initial
                 drafts of HTML 5 authoring specifications. This is, in
                 part, in response to a [28]suggestion made by Noah in
                 October 2008, shortly after the HTML/TAG joint working
                 group meeting at the Mandelieu Technical Plenary.
          + TAG Issues relating to this discussion:
               o [29]ISSUE-20 (errorHandling-20) What should
                 specifications say about error handling? shepherd:
                 Henry Thompson
               o [30]ISSUE-33 (mixedUIXMLNamespace-33) Composability
                 for user interface-oriented XML namespaces (no
               o [31]ISSUE-41 (LanguageVersioning-41) What are good
                 practices for designing extensible languages and for
                 handling versioning? shepherd: Larry Masinter
               o [32]ISSUE-54 (TagSoupIntegration-54) Tag soup
                 integration. shepherd: Henry Thompson
          + TAG Actions relating to this discussion:
               o [33]ACTION-283: Update document on version identifiers
                 w.r.t. Cambridge June discussion - Larry Masinter.
                 Due: 2009-07-24
               o [34]ACTION-288: Arrange "divying" of HTML 5 into
                 sections such that each part of spec is read by at
                 least one TAG member - Henry Thompson. Due:
                 2009-07-02. Henry responded with a [35]Proposed
                 division of labour wrt reading the HTML 5 spec that we
                 [36]agreed to on July 23.
          + Goals:
               o Review progress on reading the HTML specification.
                 Should we close [37]ACTION-288?
               o At [38]request of Larry and wrt/ [39]ACTION-283,
                 revisit versioning and robustness principle.
    5. Architecture of the Web of Applications
          + Background:
               o [40]Agreement at the June 2009 technical plenary that
                 architectural issues relating to Web Applications will
                 be a [41]TAG priority.
               o [42]Draft Table of Contents for TAG work on Web
               o June 2009 F2F discussions:
                    # [43]W3C work on APIs
                    # [44]Web Application State Management
                    # [45]Javascript security
                    # [46]Mobile Web
                    # Web Architecture for Applications ([47]session 1
                      and [48]session 2)
               o Ashok [49]asks whether TAG should review the
                 [50]Geolocation last call draft.
               o We have published a working draft [51]Usage Patterns
                 For Client-Side URI parameters ([52]discussion of Web
                 Application State at the June 2009 F2F -- we decided
                 at the end of this discussion to delay further work on
                 this draft until more progress is made in framing the
                 broader issues relating to Web Application
          + TAG Issues relating to this discussion:
               o [53]ISSUE-60 (webApplicationState-60) Web Application
                 State Management shepherd: T.V. Raman
          + TAG Actions relating to this discussion:
               o [54]ACTION-264: Draft agenda item for upcoming telcon
                 discussion of geolocation and privacy - Ashok
                 Malhotra. Due: 2009-07-11
               o [55]ACTION-273: Carry forward framing issues around
                 Archicture of APIs, with help from JK and LM - Ashok
                 Malhotra. Due: 2009-06-15
               o [56]ACTION-275: Propose concrete steps wrt GeoPriv
                 after consultion with W3C members/staff - Dan
                 Connolly. Due: 2009-06-30 CLOSED
               o [57]ACTION-276: Take GeoPriv discussion with IETF
                 forward in person in July - Larry Masinter. Due:
               o [58]ACTION-278: Draft changes to 2.7 of Metadata in
                 URIs to cover the "Google Calendar" case - Jonathan
                 Rees. Due: 2009-07-07
               o [59]ACTION-279: Draft a message to webapps chairs
                 relaying TAG concerns around CORS - Henry Thompson.
                 Due: 2009-06-24 CLOSED
               o [60]ACTION-280: (with John K) to enumerate some CSRF
                 scenarios discussed in Jun in Cambridge - Dan
                 Connolly. Due: 2009-06-30
               o [61]ACTION-284: Flesh out the Web Application
                 outline with as many sentences as he can - Jonathan
                 Rees. Due: 2009-07-01
          + Goals:
               o Larry [62]requests that we discuss GEOPRIV and
                 Geolocation next steps.
    6. Metadata
          + Background:
               o June 2009 F2f [63]discussion of metadata access and
               o [64]Framing an Architecture for Metadata on the Web
                 (email from Larry Masinter in relation to
                 [65]ACTION-254; see also [66]response from Ashok)
               o Pre-June F2F Background
                    # Pursuant to [67]ACTION-227, Jonathan Rees
                      prepared [68]a survey of issues relating to
                    # See email thread starting with [69]Jonathan's
                      announcement of the survey document.
          + TAG Issues relating to this discussion:
               o [70]ISSUE-36 (siteData-36) Web site metadata improving
                 on robots.txt, w3c/p3p and favicon etc. shepherd: Dan
               o [71]ISSUE-55 (utf7Encoding-55) Security issues with
                 incorrect metadata (no shepherd)
               o [72]ISSUE-63 (Metadata Architecture for the Web)
                 Metadata Architecture for the Web shepherd: Larry
          + TAG Actions relating to this discussion:
               o [73]ACTION-254: Send email to www-tag announcing
                 issue-63 - Larry Masinter. PENDING REVIEW
               o [74]ACTION-281: Keep an eye on progress of link header
                 draft, report to TAG, warn us of problems - Ashok
                 Malhotra. Due: 2009-08-01
               o [75]ACTION-282: Draft a finding on metadata
                 architecture - Jonathan Rees. Due: 2009-08-31
          + Goals:
               o Review Larry's proposal for [76]Framing an
                 Architecture for Metadata on the Web.
               o Review progress on action items.
    7. Semantics of "resources" in RFC 3986 and RFC 2616
          + Background:
               o Pat Hayes [77]note expressing interest in TAG's
                 opinion of a position taken by Henrik Nordstrom. The
                 question relates to compatibility, or lack thereof, of
                 the concept of "Resource" as used in [78]RFC 2616 vs.
                 in [79]RFC 3986, and in the context of the TAG's
                 [80]resolution of issue [81]httpRange-14 (now tracked
                 as [82]ISSUE-14 - CLOSED). The note summarizing
                 Henrik's view is included as a forward in the note
                 from Pat. In any case, Pat says "I do not expect a
                 reply, but I put it to y'all...".
          + Goals:
               o Decide whether we want to consider the question(s)
                 posed by Pat, and if so, establish next steps.
    8. contentTypeOverride-24 ([83]ISSUE-24):
          + Goals:
               o Larry [84]requests that we discuss origin header and
                 content sniffing in [85]HTTPbis.
    9. Pending Review Items:
          + [86]Pending review actions in [87]Tracker
   10. Overdue Action Items:
          + [88]Overdue actions in [89]Tracker
   11. Any other business

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      [5] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/issues

      [6] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/

      [7] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/tag/2003Jul/0054.

      [8] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/

      [9] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/tag/

     [10] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2009/08/06-agenda

     [11] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2009/07/23-minutes

     [12] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2009/06/summersched.pdf

     [13] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/tag/2009May/0068.html

     [14] http://www.w3.org/TR/2009/WD-hash-in-uri-20090415/

     [15] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2009/06/24-minutes.html#item05

     [16] http://www.w3.org/2009/11/TPAC/

     [17] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2009/06/25-minutes.html#item03

     [18] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2009/06/25-minutes.html#item03

     [19] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/tag/2009Jul/0044.html

     [20] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/tag/2009Jul/0044.html

     [21] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2009/06/TagPriorities.txt

     [22] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2009/06/25-minutes.html#item04

     [23] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2009/06/23-minutes.html#item03

     [24] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2009/06/24-minutes.html#item03

     [25] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2009/06/25-minutes.html#item06




     [29] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/issues/20

     [30] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/issues/33

     [31] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/issues/20

     [32] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/issues/54

     [33] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/283

     [34] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/288

     [35] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/tag/2009Jul/0026.html

     [36] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2009/07/23-minutes#item03

     [37] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/288

     [38] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/tag/2009Aug/0006.html

     [39] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/283

     [40] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2009/06/25-minutes.html#item04

     [41] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2009/06/TagPriorities.txt

     [42] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2009/06/webAppsTOC.html

     [43] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2009/06/23-minutes.html#item02

     [44] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2009/06/23-minutes.html#item04

     [45] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2009/06/23-minutes.html#item05

     [46] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2009/06/24-minutes.html#item01

     [47] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2009/06/24-minutes.html#item04

     [48] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2009/06/25-minutes.html#item05

     [49] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2009Jul/0049.html

     [50] http://www.w3.org/TR/2009/WD-geolocation-API-20090707/

     [51] http://www.w3.org/TR/2009/WD-hash-in-uri-20090415/

     [52] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2009/06/23-minutes.html#item04

     [53] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/issues/60

     [54] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/264

     [55] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/273

     [56] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/275

     [57] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/276

     [58] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/278

     [59] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/279

     [60] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/280

     [61] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/284

     [62] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/tag/2009Aug/0006.html

     [63] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2009/06/24-minutes.html#item02

     [64] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2009Jul/0153.html

     [65] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/254

     [66] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2009Jul/0154.html

     [67] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/227

     [68] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2009/02/metadata-survey.html

     [69] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2009Feb/0221.html

     [70] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/issues/36

     [71] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/issues/55

     [72] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/issues/63

     [73] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/254

     [74] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/281

     [75] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/282

     [76] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2009Jul/0153.html

     [77] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2009Jul/0170.html

     [78] http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc2616.txt

     [79] http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc3986.txt

     [80] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2005Jun/0039

     [81] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/issues.html?type=1#httpRange-14

     [82] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/issues/14

     [83] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/issues/24

     [84] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/tag/2009Aug/0006.html

     [85] http://www.ietf.org/dyn/wg/charter/httpbis-charter.html

     [86] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/pendingreview

     [87] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/

     [88] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/actions/overdue

     [89] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/

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