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Re: Setting TAG Priorities - Next steps

From: <noah_mendelsohn@us.ibm.com>
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2009 16:21:41 -0400
To: Eran Hammer-Lahav <eran@hueniverse.com>
Cc: Tim Berners-Lee <timbl@w3.org>, "www-tag@w3.org" <www-tag@w3.org>
Message-ID: <OF1307D442.22B35547-ON85257597.006F7167-85257597.006FA99A@lotus.com>
Eran Hammer-Lahav wrote:

> We are working on one more round of revisions for the three drafts 
> with the goal to move them to last call based on feedback. Do you 
> think that will have any impact on setting the TAG’s agenda and 

Thank you for getting in touch about this.  I've seen no replies from 
other TAG members, so let me ask you:  is there some way you think we 
might be helpful?  In particular, you don't suggest detailed schedules for 
your progress to last call.  If you let us know roughly what timeframes 
you have in mind, I can at least try to be sure that the TAG remains aware 
of them as we set our own priorities.  I am also, of course, open to other 
suggestions as to how best to coordinate.  Thank you.


Noah Mendelsohn 
IBM Corporation
One Rogers Street
Cambridge, MA 02142

Eran Hammer-Lahav <eran@hueniverse.com>
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04/08/2009 04:50 PM
        To:     Tim Berners-Lee <timbl@w3.org>, 
"noah_mendelsohn@us.ibm.com" <noah_mendelsohn@us.ibm.com>
        cc:     "www-tag@w3.org" <www-tag@w3.org>
        Subject:        Re: Setting TAG Priorities - Next steps

We are working on one more round of revisions for the three drafts with 
the goal to move them to last call based on feedback. Do you think that 
will have any impact on setting the TAG’s agenda and priorities?


On 4/8/09 11:19 AM, "Tim Berners-Lee" <timbl@w3.org> wrote:

On 2009-03 -22, at 11:10, noah_mendelsohn@us.ibm.com wrote:

TAG members:

In an email just sent [1], I summarized the work we've done so far toward 
setting the TAG's long term agenda.  We have a F2F scheduled tentatively 
for end of June:  if we can make good progress refining our priorities 
between now and then, we'll have a much more effective F2F agenda, and 
there will be less need to spend time discussing priorities.  So, here are 

my thoughts on next steps, along with a request for you to help move this 
discussion forward in the coming weeks:

First, it's clear that there is a balance to be struck between top down 
planning driven by unifying themes as identified at the F2F [2] vs. 
stepping in quickly and effectively on other high priority matters that 
need attention.  I don't think we yet know what the right balance is. 
Also, we haven't >yet< shown that we can use the themes we gathered at the 

F2F to motivate specific work items with clear goals and measures of 
success.  Even if the themes do prove effective, we'll need to be nimble 
about taking up other high priority work from time to time.  So, we need 
to propose more specific activities under each theme, and to prioritize 
both the big themes and the specific activities.

Let's try in email in the coming weeks to make progress, building on what 
we did at the F2F.  There are multiple threads we'll need to pursue in 
parallel, iterating until we have a set of particular deliverables 
organized by high priority themes, or else perhaps until the point where 
we decide that themes aren't serving us after all.  Below my signature are 

a set of questions I think we should be discussing between now and the 

I propose that we let this discussion go on as a background activity for a 

few weeks to see whether it proves fruitful.  In the meantime, we have 
quite a few items left over from last week's agenda, as well as one or two 

new ones, and they look worthwhile to me.  I'll be scheduling those for 
telcons on the 26th and the 2nd, while keeping an eye on this discussion 
of long term priorities.  Thank you.

Thank you.


[1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2009Mar/0138.html

[2] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2009/03/05-whiteboard-priorities.txt

[3] http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2009/03/03-TAG-issue-status.html


*       Of the 6 themes identified [2] at the F2F, and of the particular 
items listed under them, help us set priorities.  Should we focus on all 6 

equally?  Are the themes in fact useful in setting priorities?

My suggestion is that we focus on 4

- HTML TAG soup and versioning
Maybe new note to tell the story of how this works in HML5 using 
ultra-liberal parsing?
(Separately get JAR's node on versioning in general out -- useful IMHO but 
not for HTML5) 

- Access to metadata
This is timely.  We should make a finding which could be a part of a new 
Arch Doc which
described how to get metadata using link headers etc. And we should review 
the 3 drafts Noah points to.

- Naming
Get this finding done and wrapped up and off the agenda.

- Semantic web a la awwsw

We track two:

- Security, which we feel is important but do not have in-group expertise 

- Mobile, looking or issues in mobile which are different from normal web 


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