Justin James wrote: >> Interesting, but nothing at all to do with the SWeb project/goals. You are > still talking > about human/human communication here. The SWeb goal is to > perform work without human >> intervention or communication being necessary. Perhaps 'inference web' > would have been a > better term, but we are stuck with 'semantic web' now. > > This is how I have always view "Semantic Web". A non-special needs user of a > standard Web browser doesn't need HTML to figure out when red, bold text > means "important" and when it means "this field on this form is required." > That Web browser application *does* need semantic tags to act differently on > red, bold text that should be "important" text as opposed to indicated a > required form field; so does a search engine, and so do a lot of other > "interesting" applications. > Other than the ARIA spec, which should be rolled 100% into HTML 5, I have > seen little to believe that we are honestly working toward the Semantic Web > goal. In fact, I see an awful lot that is contrary to it. All of these > RIA-related features need to be *removed* from HTML 5 unless ARIA is a > mandatory part of HTML 5 (made part of the spec, and the tags are > mandatory). To do otherwise is to violate one of our stated goals. The stated goals where? The HTML WG charter makes one mention of "semantics" (little "s"): "[The deliverable is] A language evolved from HTML4 for describing the semantics of documents and applications on the World Wide Web." > So, which bullet do we prefer to bite? Removing the "Web 2.0" stuff from > HTML 5? Or making ARIA a mandatory set of attributes/tags/whatever in HTML > 5, and (hopefully) finding a way to make a direct connection between CSS > definitions and ARIA? Sounds like a false dichotomy to me, especially given that charter specifies the deliverable must contain DOM interfaces, form/UI widgets, and various other APIs. Depends what you mean by "mandatory", of course.Received on Tuesday, 10 June 2008 14:29:48 UTC
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