- From: Jonathan Rees <jar@creativecommons.org>
- Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2008 16:24:19 -0400
- To: "www-tag@w3.org WG" <www-tag@w3.org>
http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2008/07/10-minutes ---------- W3C - DRAFT - TAG Weekly 10 Jul 2008 Agenda See also: IRC log Attendees Present Ashok, Danc, Henry, Jonathan, Stuart, TimBL Regrets Noah, Raman Chair Stuart Williams Scribe Jonathan Rees Contents * Topics 1. Issue UrnsAndRegistries-50 (ISSUE-50) 2. News / new items 3. Issue contentTypeOverride-24 (ISSUE-24) * Summary of Action Items <Stuart> Scribe: Jonathan Rees <Stuart> trackbot, status Getting started. Comments on agenda? No. Propose accepting draft minutes of 26 June telecon (not the joint call, the one before it). OK? Resolved: http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2008/06/26-tagmem-minutes approved. Henry to scribe next week <Ashok> Stuart, regrets for next week's call Ashok and Tim express regrets for next week. Henry: Let's meet next week anyhow <DanC> ok by me to cxl 31 Jul, 7 Aug, 14 Aug Resolved: No TAG telecons on 31 Jul, 7 Aug, or 14 Aug. Issue UrnsAndRegistries-50 (ISSUE-50) How to continue the interaction with OASIS/XRI? Ashok volunteering to talk to Marty about data integration use case in about 2 weeks stuart: I'm concerned that maybe nothing will get done over the summer. <DanC> HT: I hope to use the summer break to do the drafting I was planning to do. HT: We do not have a serious analysis of why http doesn't meet their requirements. The XRI has not done this, nor have we. <ht_wylie> timbl: The problem is not how to evolve the mechanism <Ashok> TimBl: Who is the design authority? <ht_wylie> ... it's a social problem -- they don't trust, or want to work with, ICANN and the rest of the authority structure <Ashok> ask them is it that it cannot be done technically or socially <ht_wylie> ... This kind of group wants to be _socially_ independent of ICANN and so on <Ashok> do you want to be independent of ICANN stuart: Have you seen latest decision from ICANN, re TLDs for sale? <timbl> yes <DanC> impact of lots more top level domains on the Web? Dan Connolly (Thursday, 26 June) http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2008Jun/0113.html danc: XRIs are showing up in oauth namespace declarations; namespaces are specified as URIs; that would imply that XRIs have to be URIs. <DanC> (I tried to say IRI; but since IRIs and URIs share a scheme registry.) <Ashok> but XRI not registered as URI scheme ht: If an XRI URI scheme is applied for, then it will have to meet the bar for new URI schemes ... What can we do to help meet our obligations here? <ht_wylie> At some point on the call, I said "Now _that's_ a technical question we could dig into . . ." . . . what was that? stuart: Shall we: frame questions and encourage conversation? danc: Not sure that will help keep things alive over the summer. (The chair initiates a poll on the question of whether to frame questions and encourage conversation in order to keep things going over the summer.) danc: Discussion on www-tag is convenient for me, though I wonder whether it'll reach critical mass ashok: Yes, encouraging summer conversation is a good idea <ht_wylie> Found it: 'HST thinks that addressing the "http scheme did not allow us to to use non-DNS authority resolution" is a very concrete challenge that we could focus on' ht: Maybe we can dig in on at least one definite issue, the one about distributed authority. stuart: Looking for ways to make it not fall silent and lose context over the summer timbl: Maybe put the argument on a wiki, lay it out there ... Let's consider priorities w.r.t. other activities, maybe recruit others to help [given that our time is short] <timbl> We could spend an hour of the next meeting to state our position <DanC> but that wouldn't be any better. <ht_wylie> HST is willing to try to start a thread danc: A real back and forth would be better than presentations <ht_wylie> ACTION: Henry S to start a thread on non-DNS authority resolution on www-tag [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/07/10-tagmem-irc ] <trackbot> Created ACTION-167 - Henry S to start a thread on non-DNS authority resolution on www-tag [on Henry S. Thompson - due 2008-07-17]. News / new items danc: Let's drop video Issue contentTypeOverride-24 (ISSUE-24) (NOTE: No quorum from this point in the meeting.) <DanC> http://www.w3.org/QA/2008/07/life_without_mime_type_sniffin.html <DanC> http://www.w3.org/blog/tag/ danc: How visible is the TAG blog? ... TAG finding says sniffing is security risk. But HTML5 says do sniff sometimes. ... Economics of following http spec are hopeless - doing the right thing loses market share. ... Now, there's the "I mean it" flag <Stuart> Hixie's response was interesting: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2008Jul/0079.html danc: and sometimes there's a browser configuration switch that says "follow the spec" ... and maybe things are getting better with compliance <Stuart> DanC, if you can point me at the 'controls' I'll be happy to 'live dangerously'. danc: I think the TAG should talk about this some more ... Details on sniffing in html5 are reasonable, not just a wholesale endorsement of some popular browser's behavior ... e.g. <img src="something whose content-type is text/plain"> stuart: Would you be willing to take on editor role? danc: yes <DanC> issue-34? <trackbot> ISSUE-34 -- XML Transformation and composability (e.g., XSLT,XInclude, Encryption) -- OPEN <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/issues/34 danc: example: content type xhtml+xml, but then treated by client as atom feed due to namespace in the xml file <DanC> issue-33? <trackbot> ISSUE-33 -- Composability for user interface-oriented XML namespaces -- OPEN <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/group/track/issues/33 <DanC> Dave Baron's msg was about the boundary between CDF and the TAG, about which I'm curious Meeting formally adjourned. Summary of Action Items [NEW] ACTION: Henry S to start a thread on non-DNS authority resolution on www-tag [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/07/10-tagmem-irc ] [End of minutes] Minutes formatted by David Booth's scribe.perl version 1.133 (CVS log) $Date: 2008/07/11 19:12:48 $
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