- From: Nick Gall <nick.gall@gmail.com>
- Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2007 21:37:39 -0400
- To: www-tag@w3.org
- Message-ID: <a6a6df360709251837l4cc5b8f0s4078a2aff928086b@mail.gmail.com>
It's 2:30am in London where I write this, just having read the umpteenth post about Cool URIs, so I may just be halucinating. But it struck me when thinking about the things that a URI can't identify that AFAIK a URI can't identify a URI. Is this true? If so, is it important? It could be important because without a way to identify a URI, one cannot make (RDF) assertions it. For example, given the http URI [1] http://ironick.typepad.com/ironick/2007/09/three-kinds-of-.html one might want to assert that it "ends with the letters h,t,m,l" or that it is so many characters long. If a URI can identify a URI, then what would the URI for [1] look like, eg http://uri.reference.org/?uri=http://ironick.typepad.com/ironick/2007/09/three-kinds-of-.html And what content-type would be used for the representation returned? text? I raise this issue, not only because I am curious, but also because I think it sheds light on the issue of URI ambiguity being discussed in the Cool URIs permathread. Just as the argument can be made that we must be able to speak about and unambiguously identify "information resources" independent of "non-information resources" (things in themselves), the argument can be made that we must be able to speak about and unambiguously identify "identifiers" ("identifying resources" perhaps) independent of the things they identify. In English, we simply use quotation marks to identify the identifier, eg "'Nick' is a nickname of Nicholas Gall." So for the person Alice, we need at least URIs for three entities to be identified: 1. A URI identifying Alice herself: http://www.acme.com/id/alice 2. A URI identifying an information resource representing Alice: http://www.acme.com/data/alice 3. A URI identifying [1], in other words a URI identifying the URI that identifies Alice: http://www.acme.com/?uri= http://www.acme.com/id/alice Since we've gotten along without (3) so far, perhaps we can get along without (1) as well. Just a thought. In any case, I like the idea that URIs seem to identify everything that can be thought--except themselves. -- Nick -- Nick Gall Phone: +1.781.608.5871 AOL IM: Nicholas Gall Yahoo IM: nick_gall_1117 MSN IM: (same as email) Google Talk: (same as email) Email: nick.gall AT-SIGN gmail DOT com Weblog: http://ironick.typepad.com/ironick/ Furl: http://www.furl.net/members/ngall
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